Leaving

[Adularena]

Hello and Goodbye.

Ranks are conlflicting with my view on that every guildie should have the chance to raid. The chance is there now, yes, but too slim to be even worth showing up. You cannot be a casual SoG Raider now.

ops! raid grp 2? Wow! another 10 months of MC! juppee.

BB

[TeaLeaf]

You not bothering to wait for the RG2?  Jeepers Adu

Sorry to see you go, but give us a chance m8, we're doing the best we can and you're throwing a raid place away that will be with you RealSoonNow™.

TL.

[Sinap]

Addy

[KreuZ]

Well as always I'll say.. I'm open for ideas.

[Adularena]

Noone take this personal!

Me leaving is a personal inability to be part of a greater community while working ALOT. It doesnt help myself when I skip sleep between work shifts in order to play and I sit watching most raids from the sideline for 3 weeks.

I think everyone should be able to raid.

Noone would want to go to raid grp 2 from raidgrp 1. never. Maybe one person. Dude, you are doing a fantastic job. but try fresh air.

GL dudes!

[KreuZ]

And that person would be?

[TeaLeaf]

Congratulations on making RG2 Kreuz.  

 :toast:

TL.

[KreuZ]

Well if he's talking about me, I'm surprised since he actually started playing some months after me but played so much that he made 60 way before me.

[Neff]

Addy? wth you left? Sog isnt the same without you man, and i mean that . It must really really suck working, then logging on to see that you must sit and watch from the sideline. But leaving without even making a "whine" thread about this, i've talked to alot of ppl wanting to leave the guild ( wont name anyone) and my advice was: sleep on it, your pissed now and prob will be but as soon as you slept on it, and thought trough : do i really wanna quit the guild with "all" my friends in? Everyone i talked to have stayed. Argh this wasnt meant as a self praising.


I really dont want you to leave, but now you have and i really hope for you to be back, You've "always" been here and sog isnt the same without you, i'd sacrifice my spot for a little bit of time ,if that'd make you come back, but then you'd prob feel bad for taking another ones spot, but the officers are constantly working on making this a better guild.

if anyone didnt care to read the whole post, very short : I want you back in sog  

[Tinilgawiel]

Now that's why I wanted a quick fix. [sarcasm]but hey. Soon we will be only raid grp one and SoG is a huge raiding guild..[/sarcasm]

[Sinap]

I left and when I thought about it, I missed all the people, so came back Think about it.

[Neff]

Dont forget who sat in our wth chat and trying to get you skeg's back

[Adularena]

Well, I`m not leaving to show off or get attention. I`m fed up. I have some sort of twisted pride that makes it unlikely to ever come crawling back. It is only now when I cant play much and not being an officer I see how unfair some decitions can be even if they are "taken in the best interest for the guild". I was a part of the guild, then why should that decition not be fair to me too. I wanted to raid. I couldnt be here as guardian rank. I didnt care. I could be defender. But you guys filled up the guild with so many accounts that you have plenty of guardians and plenty of defenders. For the defenders that wanted/want to be a Guardian, that must be a nightmare. EQUAL RAIDING RIGHTS NOW!!!

And how many rogues you have? I have to fight for crumbs. I dont eat crumbs, I have worked too hard for that in SoG over a long time to see me not getting to raid because I now cannot give so much for SoG as to play all days 24/7.

I dont enjoy being in SoG when I cant take part of what SoG is doing. I`m replacable.

Take away my forum access pls.

I`ll se you in PvP BGs. Whisper me for anything at all if you need it, help, gold, chat, AQ20 (for the defenders that cant raid etc).

[KreuZ]

The reason we have so many people, is because of casual raiders actually. If we don't have enough people we would never get full raids and people would be pissed off all the damn time. If we only had casual raiders, we would never be able to raid. I do agree that we need to have equal rights for raiding spots. But then people have to show up just as much as they have now.

I'm open to suggestions, cause I'm out of ideas, we've used alot of systems and so far we haven't found one that pleases both parts.

[sitha]

Really sad to see you go Adu, hope you manage to swallow your pride and come back to us. You will be welcome and noone will think the less of you. If not I wish you good luck out there.

Anyways, as I didn't get into the last raid either I had some time to think while watching Chealse getting kicked out of Champions League .

Maybe we could split the guardians into two groups, divided by what their primary instance is. One for BWL and one for OL/MC. The two groups should not each fill up a full group. This allows us to rotate players so they still can join their non-primary instances. This would of course require there to be more guardians.

I'm making this up as I go so bare with me. Requirements for BWL primary would be something like 5 or more tier-1 set items. For you to have MC/OL as primary you should actually have like 5 or less tier-1 set items. Only peole that will have priority in both group should be officers. All other requirements for guardians still apply.

There are a couple of advantages with this system as I see it. First and foremost, it will allow more people to raid regularely.

The overall raid force of the guild will be better as more people will be able to get upgrades to their gear and get more raid experience.

One obvious downside with this system and the DKP system we have today is that MC/OL raiders will earn more DKP. Because of this the rewards for MC bosses/drops should be adjustet so that a full night of BWL raiding gives roughly the same DKP as a full night doing MC+OL.

Another problem is that people that regularely do all three instances will get quite a lot more DKP then the rest.

Over time we would still have to form a second raidgroup, but this could be an immediate solution while we work towards a second group.

Hope this makes some sense. I don't claim to have all the answers, but I think this could be worth considering at least.