Tank Requirements

Started by TeaLeaf, May 16, 2006, 12:49:25 PM

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TeaLeaf

It's worth noting that just to get past the first boss (Skeram) will need at least 3 very well specced tanks.  Given that the Skeram will make two extra copies of himself (and does three times during the fight) this means 3 tanks (one for each).  Skeram can also mind control a target which could be one of the tanks (who will then need to be sheeped) meaning that more than three well specced tanks will be needed.  Worth remembering if you are looking at your Warrior talent spec...........

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Siffredi

How well spec tank do you need for this??? As i see it this would not be a problem cause we do have plenty of Protection spec tanks in the guild?
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TeaLeaf

QuoteOriginally posted by Siffredi@May 16 2006, 01:01 PM
As i see it this would not be a problem cause we do have plenty of Protection spec tanks in the guild?
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I wish RG1 had a few more......but anyway.  Early bosses (1-5) are about the same as end-MC levels of difficulty, but by the end of the instance you are *way* more difficult than anything you find in BWL.  The climb in difficulty through the instance is extreme to say the least and some of the trash mobs have already got reputations as raid wipers!

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Siffredi

Well... this sounds kinda fun... If the first bosses are as "easy" as you say they are (end-MC) then RG1 should soon start raiding AQ 40 too? Perhaps instead of farming the MC for a period of time... Perhaps the ones from RG1 that are missing their loot from MC can join cyclewise RG2 who will be raiding MC for quite a while...
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Zentobar - 60 NE rogue
Sirzoidac - 60 human paladin
Sanhomadun- 60 human priest
Nibsen - 60 gnome mage
Digales - 43 gnome warlock
Siffer - 36 NE druid

Bob

QuoteOriginally posted by Siffredi@May 16 2006, 01:18 PM
Perhaps the ones from RG1 that are missing their loot from MC can join cyclewise RG2 who will be raiding MC for quite a while...
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That would at least require some kind of change in the looting rules, cause as of now RG1 members are not allowed to ask for any loot at all when in a RG2 raid...
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TeaLeaf

QuoteOriginally posted by Threbrilith@May 16 2006, 01:47 PM
That would at least require some kind of change in the looting rules, cause as of now RG1 members are not allowed to ask for any loot at all when in a RG2 raid...
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That is currently under discussion.

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Bob

QuoteOriginally posted by TeaLeaf@May 16 2006, 01:57 PM
That is currently under discussion.
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Hmm, interesting :thumbsup2:
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Othbarty

QuoteOriginally posted by Threbrilith@May 16 2006, 02:47 PM
That would at least require some kind of change in the looting rules, cause as of now RG1 members are not allowed to ask for any loot at all when in a RG2 raid...
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Give RG2 members priority in RG2 raids. Problem solved :)
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Sinap

Tbh though, a lot of points in protection isn't a huge improvement. The build I used had 9 points in protection, giving me an extra 8% armor and +10 defence. This just helped me take less damage but you can keep decent aggro without protection talents.
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Luthor

True, but can you aswell in a "extreme" situation? like having an Asheera?

Only a Protection specc warrior can rely on the high aggro stuff imo...

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opticalrush

QuoteIt's worth noting that just to get past the first boss (Skeram) will need at least 3

I do not agree on this statement we got 2 defensive specced tanks 3 + rexon
and they others with wrath we had 1 good try with a pug
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Luthor

QuoteOriginally posted by opticalrush@May 17 2006, 10:59 AM
I do not agree on this statement we got 2 defensive specced tanks 3 + rexon
and they others with wrath we had 1 good try with a pug
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That i wouldn't know :) but i think a protection specced warrior can do a bit better tanking, which might be needed when on the edge.

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Padding

This discussion is not in the right forum, but is actually very interesting since its not just a tank spec that we are discussing but all classes, and what is actually best among the different classes

For some reason its ok that not all warriors is not totally tank specced, but it would be unacceptable to see a priest shadow specced or a paladin retribution specced for PVE instances.

I think its time to take this discussion up among the members of the guild to hear some views on the matter, and to hear what people actually think about what specs the different classes should have.

Could TL or Bastet please move this thread to a more appropiate forum where we can discuss the specs on the classes


TeaLeaf

I'll take a wild guess at which one it belongs in.  Your call is important, please hold.............

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Bastet

You know padding you can do all this stuff yourselfs too :P
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