Could we do this?

Started by Greatdanes, July 06, 2006, 09:12:59 AM

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Greatdanes

Could we send a ingame mail to people with low attendance with the following text:

Hi dear member of SoG's RG2

There has been a chance in the attendance requirements(you need to meet to 4 out of 6 raids in the future) for members of SoG's RG2 form next raid.

But we have monitor the raids for the last 16 raids and can see you have a very low attendance in this raids.
So we are very interest in to hear what you intention for the future is with RG2.
Will you be able to fulfil attendance requirements in the future or do you not want to raid with RG2 any longer?

Is shall not be a secret at we will demote you to Soldier if you not are able to fulfil attendance requirements from now on.
You can ofc any time apply for a Defender spot when you are ready to fulfil the attendance requirements


This is just my suggestion but I will really like to meet with they others Marshal's on TS to discuss this matter so we have something to bring to the officers and can have sort it out before next raid so people have a chance to do someting about it if they want to stay in RG2.

So dear Marshal's colleague could we meet on TS tonight 19.30 to discuss this?
Please post another time/date if you are prevent to meet.
Things to discuss:
Promotion of CL.
People with low attendance and what we have to do about it.
(New RL)
¤ GD ¤
 
Greatdanes LVL 70 Dwarf Hunter # Professions : Leatherworker
Megabyte LVL 60 Human Paladin # Professions : Mining + Herballism
Ushar LVL 60 Dwarf Priest # Professions : Tailoring + Enchanting
Minimand LVL 60 Gnome Mage # Professions : Alchemy + Engineering
Cæsar LVL 51 Human Rogue # Professions : Herballism + Alchemy
+ some low lvl

Bastet

Not sure you can fit all that in a single IG mail. Try first, mail another marshal.

Minor rewrite of msg to correct some typos and make it sound a bit less hostile:

QuoteDear Raid group 2 member

There has been a change in the attendance requirements for members of SoG's RG2 starting from next raid you need to attend 4 out of 6 raids.

The marshals have been monitoring the attendance over the last 2 months (or 16 raids) and we have seen that your attendance has been very low in this period.
So we are very interested in knowing if you will be able to make the attendance requirements from now on. If you feel you are unable to make the requirements or if you dont want to raid any longer, then please let us know also.

As a reminder, long therm failure to make your attendance might result in a demotion to the rank of soldier. You will then be unable to raid untill a spot opens up once again.

Regards,
The Marshals
Aszune (Alliance):
Sokhar lv 80 (H/M) Warrior, Sokhár lv 80 (H/M) Death Knight, Beset lv 70 (NE/F) Druid, Bastet lv 70 (NE/F) Rogue, Mentu lv 70 (Dr/M) Shaman
-=[dMw]=-Bastet (CSS) / -=[dMw]=-Niwa (BF2) / -=dMw=- Sokhar (BF2142)
-=[dMw]=- MVP Award Holder (June 2006) Winning team -=[dMw]=- Christmas Crunch (2008)

Greatdanes

Yea you "rewrite" sound alot better :D

I will try to send it from GD to one of my alt's to see it fit in a ingame mail.
¤ GD ¤
 
Greatdanes LVL 70 Dwarf Hunter # Professions : Leatherworker
Megabyte LVL 60 Human Paladin # Professions : Mining + Herballism
Ushar LVL 60 Dwarf Priest # Professions : Tailoring + Enchanting
Minimand LVL 60 Gnome Mage # Professions : Alchemy + Engineering
Cæsar LVL 51 Human Rogue # Professions : Herballism + Alchemy
+ some low lvl

Padding

Not sure that i should comment on this, but im gonna do it anyways  8)

One thing i noticed is that you seem to be looking for just 1 person to replace deadlyspirit. Its ok that you have 1 primary raid leader but others should be able to lead it as well. When we are lacking TL (yes it happens sometimes) in RG1, there are others who can take over, maybe not as good, but we get there. Now, i might've missed the point, but if i did.... i stand corrected.

The text to send out looks fine. One thing you need to think about is that when RG2 was started, it was under the pretence that it was for people who couldnt/wouldnt raid as much. This is not a criticism, just so might know that certain people might see the higher requirement as a step down for them as they might not be able to make it.

Make no mistake, i know how important it is to have a steady raid group from week to week, so i think that you are doing the right thing.


Greatdanes

Hmm - way to long, can't fit in a ingame mail.

Stoppes after:
If you feel you are unable to make the requirements or if you dont

missing:
want to raid any longer, then please let us know also.

As a reminder, long therm failure to make your attendance might result in a demotion to the rank of soldier. You will then be unable to raid untill a spot opens up once again.

Regards,
The Marshals

Bastet have you another text?

We have 2 person who can replace Deadly if he is prevent(Siffredi and Sazgul) so I think it is a main leader we are seeking for.
¤ GD ¤
 
Greatdanes LVL 70 Dwarf Hunter # Professions : Leatherworker
Megabyte LVL 60 Human Paladin # Professions : Mining + Herballism
Ushar LVL 60 Dwarf Priest # Professions : Tailoring + Enchanting
Minimand LVL 60 Gnome Mage # Professions : Alchemy + Engineering
Cæsar LVL 51 Human Rogue # Professions : Herballism + Alchemy
+ some low lvl

Bastet

try this, i dont think you can condense it any further.

Mail title: Dear Raid group 2 member

Body: Due to a recent change in rules, defenders now need to attend 4/6 raids (starting monday). You failed to make this mark over the last 16 raids. And we want to know if you will be able to make the attendance.
If you cant/dont want to, please let us know also.
Note, long therm low attendances might result in a demote to soldier.

Regards,
The Marshals
Aszune (Alliance):
Sokhar lv 80 (H/M) Warrior, Sokhár lv 80 (H/M) Death Knight, Beset lv 70 (NE/F) Druid, Bastet lv 70 (NE/F) Rogue, Mentu lv 70 (Dr/M) Shaman
-=[dMw]=-Bastet (CSS) / -=[dMw]=-Niwa (BF2) / -=dMw=- Sokhar (BF2142)
-=[dMw]=- MVP Award Holder (June 2006) Winning team -=[dMw]=- Christmas Crunch (2008)

Greatdanes

Okay that fit in a ingame mail :thumb:
¤ GD ¤
 
Greatdanes LVL 70 Dwarf Hunter # Professions : Leatherworker
Megabyte LVL 60 Human Paladin # Professions : Mining + Herballism
Ushar LVL 60 Dwarf Priest # Professions : Tailoring + Enchanting
Minimand LVL 60 Gnome Mage # Professions : Alchemy + Engineering
Cæsar LVL 51 Human Rogue # Professions : Herballism + Alchemy
+ some low lvl

Deadlyspirit

/agree

I will be on for a meet on TS or VT for tonight. I will really hope every marshal can be here tonight.

I have some points we have to discus too.
Deadlyspirit 60 G Mage / Naturpower 60 NE Druid
XpiRai 60 NE Warrior / Deadlyblow 60 H Rogue
 Holylight 60 H Priest / Holy 60 H Paladin
Shadowforce 60 H Warlock / Deadlything 48 D Hunter

TeaLeaf

Why not send them in game mail telling them to read their forum mail?  Then you can say what needs to be said properly.  If you try to condense the message to much you loose the message.  For example your above quoted message can be condensed to mobile phone text size thus:
QuoteAttend 4/6 or kicked. Be there. Love from Marshalls.
Now I'm not quite sure that's what you want to say.

TL.
TL.
Wisdom doesn\'t necessarily come with age. Sometimes age just shows up all by itself.  (Tom Wilson)
Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships. (Michael Jordan)

TeaLeaf

Edit of bastet's edit:

QuoteDear Raid group 2 member

The marshals have been monitoring the attendance over the last 2 months (or 16 raids) and we have seen that attendance has been very low in this period. As a result we need to change the RG2 attendance requirement starting from next raid. From the next raid we are asking RG2 members to attend 4 out of 6 raids.

Your attendance over the last 16 raids has been low and so we are very interested in knowing if you will be able to make the attendance requirements from now on. If you feel you will have a problem meeting these requirements then please speak to us.

We are trying to help RG2 progress and develop as a successful raid group. We can only do this with a better level of attendance than we currently experience. If someone cannot commit sufficiently to RG2 then we will need to consider their rank and possibly demote to the rank of soldier to make way for another member who can commit the time to take their place. We hope to avoid this but do not see any alternative course of action.

We look forward to hearing from you how you believe you will fit into RG2 under the new attendance requirement.

Regards,
The Marshals
TL.
Wisdom doesn\'t necessarily come with age. Sometimes age just shows up all by itself.  (Tom Wilson)
Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships. (Michael Jordan)

Greatdanes

Do I get you post right, TL, you suggestion is you send the people a ingame mail where is says we have sent a PM to them and they must go to the homepage and read a text like the one you or Bastet suggest?
¤ GD ¤
 
Greatdanes LVL 70 Dwarf Hunter # Professions : Leatherworker
Megabyte LVL 60 Human Paladin # Professions : Mining + Herballism
Ushar LVL 60 Dwarf Priest # Professions : Tailoring + Enchanting
Minimand LVL 60 Gnome Mage # Professions : Alchemy + Engineering
Cæsar LVL 51 Human Rogue # Professions : Herballism + Alchemy
+ some low lvl

Bastet

yep. and the text would be his text :P
Aszune (Alliance):
Sokhar lv 80 (H/M) Warrior, Sokhár lv 80 (H/M) Death Knight, Beset lv 70 (NE/F) Druid, Bastet lv 70 (NE/F) Rogue, Mentu lv 70 (Dr/M) Shaman
-=[dMw]=-Bastet (CSS) / -=[dMw]=-Niwa (BF2) / -=dMw=- Sokhar (BF2142)
-=[dMw]=- MVP Award Holder (June 2006) Winning team -=[dMw]=- Christmas Crunch (2008)

Greatdanes

I think it's a great idea.  :D
¤ GD ¤
 
Greatdanes LVL 70 Dwarf Hunter # Professions : Leatherworker
Megabyte LVL 60 Human Paladin # Professions : Mining + Herballism
Ushar LVL 60 Dwarf Priest # Professions : Tailoring + Enchanting
Minimand LVL 60 Gnome Mage # Professions : Alchemy + Engineering
Cæsar LVL 51 Human Rogue # Professions : Herballism + Alchemy
+ some low lvl

Deadlyspirit

yeah, and still hold it in a nice way in the ingame mail.
Deadlyspirit 60 G Mage / Naturpower 60 NE Druid
XpiRai 60 NE Warrior / Deadlyblow 60 H Rogue
 Holylight 60 H Priest / Holy 60 H Paladin
Shadowforce 60 H Warlock / Deadlything 48 D Hunter

TeaLeaf

You can ingame mail them to EITHER come look at a particular forum post, OR, copy the text above and send it to them on the forums as a PM.
TL.
Wisdom doesn\'t necessarily come with age. Sometimes age just shows up all by itself.  (Tom Wilson)
Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships. (Michael Jordan)