microsoft vista a failure?

sulky_uk · April 27, 2007, 05:21:51 PM

interesting read!!

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=39087

suicidal_monkey · April 27, 2007, 05:37:54 PM

I'll get the pitchforks, you bring the torches!

DogMeat · April 27, 2007, 07:02:02 PM

...and in other news, scientists from the Berne Institute of Stating The Bleeding Obvious conclude that the sun is "quite hot".

:doh:

Apoc · April 27, 2007, 07:27:35 PM

sulky_uk · April 27, 2007, 07:52:39 PM

Quote from: Apoc;187081

actual lol and now its my avatar

suicidal_monkey · April 28, 2007, 09:12:12 AM

http://www.b3ta.com/board/7058134

DuVeL · April 28, 2007, 09:25:41 AM

:lmfao:
Nice 1's...

sheepy · April 30, 2007, 02:52:33 PM

sweet.

BTW has anyone got much experience of linux? What is it like to use?

Im thinking of upgrading soon and im looking at alternatives, will all my stuff still run fine in linux?

suicidal_monkey · April 30, 2007, 03:38:19 PM

Quote from: sheepy;187276sweet.

BTW has anyone got much experience of linux? What is it like to use?

Im thinking of upgrading soon and im looking at alternatives, will all my stuff still run fine in linux?

some things are easy, some things are hard

I've got ubuntu as a 2nd (or 1st?) OS as well as XP on this pc now. Much of the general stuff worked "out of the box" though some of the finer points have required a decent bit of googling (though DVB cards, VFD's and remotes aren't really normal components I suppose) Not tried using windows apps via Wine yet, but I think it's fair to say the biggest problem you'll have is getting games running - although I hear Steam/CSS may now work fine?

T e c h N i c a l · April 30, 2007, 03:38:23 PM

Well, I won't be changing from XP anytime soon...

Shame that DX10 is Vista-only. Ah well. I'm happy with what I've got

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suicidal_monkey · April 30, 2007, 03:56:13 PM

dx-10 is likely to migrate / be cracked / etc

why do you use windows?
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/04/26/microsoft_default_phenomenon/

smilodon · May 01, 2007, 01:38:02 PM

Quote from: sheepy;187276sweet.

BTW has anyone got much experience of linux? What is it like to use?

Im thinking of upgrading soon and im looking at alternatives, will all my stuff still run fine in linux?

As a general working PC, Linux is streets ahead of XP and Vista. However for playing games it's not so easy. I think most stuff will work on Linux but some games require a good few hours to get them up and running.

WOW took me about ten minutes, Medieval 2 still isn't playable after a week of hard work.

I'm lucky enough to have two PC's. My day to day PC runs Ubuntu Linux 7.04 and I will never ever go back to windows. My Games PC duel boots XP and Debian Linux. Only when I play games I can't get running on Debian will I boot to XP.

Give it a go

suicidal_monkey · May 01, 2007, 01:57:14 PM

Quote from: smilodon;187401As a general working PC, Linux is streets ahead of XP and Vista.

I set it up the other day and while it is easy to use in some respects I still find it rather complex particularly under the hood if the application you're after doesn't just work.

I've installed several things via the "synaptic package manager" and they've installed but to where I have no idea and I cannot see a way of running them. They also seem to spread out parts of the program in different folders? I struggled to find an equivalent of the control panel in windows where I could check settings, see what hardware was or was not working, see what ubuntu thought my graphics card was, etc - the user-friendly ubuntu version seemed a bit sort of thin on the ground (which was the opposite of what I was expecting) meaning I still had to fire up the terminal and type cryptic commands as read off webpage tutorials. I am also rather confused as to where I should be storing my files other than on the desktop.

I also didn't expect to have to edit a config file (and some of the 1985-style linux text editors are truely awful to use) to make the 4th and 5th buttons of my mouse work in firefox, and I didn't expect making an error in that file would actually prevent ubuntu from booting properly (to be fair at least it tried to give me a comprehesible message about what the problem was but an error in mouse button config should not stop the entire graphical interface from working!:rolleyes:)

The wikis and suchlike are definitely better than last time I tried linux and the programs are easier to use/install/etc, but I still come across a LOT of "tutorials" that are really written at a non-noob level.

Perhaps I will get used to it, the same way I have done with windows, but re-writing OS code and config files is tedious after a while and you just want to double-click the installer and have it install in a directory you can find. Then if it doesn't work you know where to go to uninstall it. Once set up I'm sure it's fine, but I think many users will still be alienated by the struggle to get everything to work smoothly from a fresh install.

suicidal_monkey · May 02, 2007, 03:37:24 PM

after a bit more fighting I have managed to get Steam and CSSource installed through Wine and it did indeed load up and play (apart from a few small anomolies (splash screen was there but then the initial screen was blank. Once I'd conencted to a server and then disconnected the menus etc were visible. Ah well, almost there

Linux gaming ... hurrah!:flirty:
...still wish it was a little more straightforward to configure!!!