The Matrix Reloaded/Enter the Matrix

[FBG]

i saw it on portabello road at the electic cinema, Very cool. Plus theres a cool pub on the corner when you leave. THats if you haven't drank your fill at the bar in the cinema :-D

[smilodon]

details noted ta  

[DarkAngel]

The Architect said go through the left door and take 3 men 4 women from zion to restart zion and mankind lives go through the right door all those conneted to the matrix will all die but you will have a chance to save trinity. Cant wait for revolutions big fat battles sweeet. I wanna see those titans etc fighting super sweet.        

[A Twig]

Right, mate of mine played the game, this is what he said in a different forum:

 think i should supply you guys with certian information you lack. Because unlike you guys, ive played the game.

Not on the PC tho, my flatmate got it for his PS2. Anyway, the game is based round the exploits of Goast and Niobe, and fills in a lot of blanks, like what happens to all the ppl at the meeting when the agents arive, what happens betwee Niobe phoning Link from the matrix and them driving up behind that truck, how they took out the power station, and more importantly, what happens next.

Serf phones Niobes ship and asks her to see the orical. After the beating-her-up bit (strange guy), you get to see the new orical (baring in mind the old actor is dead), and she explains that her change in appearence is due to the evil-programer dewd, that she had to make a choice, the same choice Niobe would have to make. Wether to help the one. So Neo is still alive? Yes, she answers, but he has touched the source and is now seperated from his body. Can he be saved? Trinity can save him, she answers, but she'll have to go through hell to do it. The oracal then goes on to tell her she'll eventually have to make the same choice, and that she'll know when.

After she leaves the oracals place, she walks down the white corridor and then in walks smith. 'Damm, not who I was hoping for, maybe you could help me find him'? And then you have to do about three levels worth of running away from smith. Bugger, that was hard.

Anyway, as to the theyory of matrix inside a matrix...no...that would be too obvious. It would turn the thrid film into an Xistnce rehash, which would be crap. I'm going to have to see the film again, but im not certain if Neo didn't take the same route as those who had gone before him.

Anyway, i think the three issues that need to be looked at are;

1) What has happened to Neo, has be becomed linked to the machine world through his communication with the architect?

2) What has happened to Smith, he commented that he knew he should have been deleated, but felt compelled to stay by someone else. Was this the architect working on a contingancy plan, or has it also, happened 5 times before?

3) What dose the Oracle want? I do now wonder, dose she know everything because she knows everything, or is it because shes whatched it happen 5 times before?

Is she another form of control, or dose she want something different to the rest of the machines? The oldest of both man and machine seem to realise they are interdependant...

I find the link between Smith and Neo facinating, somehow Neo has become connected to the machine world, while Smith has become connected to the human one.

Neo clearly didn't assimilate with the source, otherwise he wouldn't have made it out of the building.
The connection with Smith as I see it is that they both "broke" and break the rules of the matrix, and so are now both in effect "The One." Smith is the antithesis of Neo, but did anyone notice in he first film, how once Neo "dived into" Smith, and came out again all his wounds had vanished?
I thought this was a continuity error but maybe something that was part of Smith became part of Neo, and this explains both Smith's compulsion, and the way that he was able to stop the Sentinels outside of the Matrix??
If Neo and Smith are linked, that would help to explain things. And that is the bit I still don't get, what is, and who is the Oracle? Ok, she's a rogue program, but 1st, why? Secondly, the point above, can she actually see the future or are they predictions made on the past? Oh and finally, if she could see the future, and knew that Neo would not be assimilated into the source, thus possibly (we don't know yet) destroying the Matrix, and therefore her, why did she help???

[smilodon]

I can state with some certainty that there is no Matrix within The Matrix. This idea has been thoroughly explored in The Thirteenth Floor. To rip that film off would be a complete distaster and the W Bros, who are famed for their original concepts, would never do it.

[smite]

I can state with some certainty that there is no Matrix within The Matrix. This idea has been thoroughly explored in The Thirteenth Floor. To rip that film off would be a complete distaster and the W Bros, who are famed for their original concepts, would never do it.

Well now u have gone and ruined that book for me, i was just reading "The Thirteenth floor" and now i may aswell not bother thanks very much..








 :twisted: Did it sound convincing :twisted:

[DarkAngel]

Im having the last word word.

[Gh0st Face Killah]

Sorry Smite you didn't sound at all convincing. And that hardly ruins the book, I could having read it a number of times but am feeling in a generous mood so won't.




was that convincing enough for you?

[A Twig]

no