The Matrix Reloaded/Enter the Matrix

DarkAngel · May 22, 2003, 09:15:15 PM

Today i watched the matrix reloaded a extremely quality film much better than the first well worth going to see to i compele you to go and see it. You will be glad you did and theres also the game enter the matrix out for PC/PS2/XBOX this is an extreemly good game and well worth the money you pay for it....

Dingo · May 22, 2003, 10:28:46 PM

QuoteToday i watched the matrix reloaded a extremely quality film much better than the first well worth going to see to i compele you to go and see it. You will be glad you did and theres also the game enter the matrix out for PC/PS2/XBOX this is an extreemly good game and well worth the money you pay for it....

.................you PAY!!!!?

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Stryker · May 23, 2003, 09:32:10 AM

QuoteToday i watched the matrix reloaded a extremely quality film much better than the first well worth going to see to i compele you to go and see it. You will be glad you did and theres also the game enter the matrix out for PC/PS2/XBOX this is an extreemly good game and well worth the money you pay for it....

Yes, aherm. Its only better than the first if you are thrilled and amazed by all the shiny and sparkly bits (special Fx).

I remember I managed to go to the cinema without seeing or hearing ANYTHING about the film.... made for a superb film.

Matrix 2 is eerrrmmm different.

smilodon · May 23, 2003, 12:52:43 PM

Matrix Reloaded is an interesting film. There is obviously a whole load of extraordinary special effects going on. But there's been the critisism that there's not much in the way of plot.

So you can watch the film in 'James Bond mode' and just enjoy the set pieces and forget about why they are happening. For six quid including the bus fare it's not bad value for money.

However, and this seemed lost on most film reviewers, there is a significant plot development within the film. I was amazed that one - it was so complex and two - that no effort was made to dumb it down for mainstream (read thick USA) audiences.

However there is an extraordinary revelation within the film as we see two views of reality and the possible future from two distinct 'within the Matrix' sources. I can't explain in any more detail as I'd spoil the movie, but I was suprised none the less. The Directors have always worked on the edge of film making and digging as deep as they have into the metaphysical seems a bit odd when they're making what is basically a action flick.

This reminded me of Starship Troopers, where you either thought "Aha I get this." or else "What's going on this film is rubbish."

It's going to work better on DVD when you can rewatch the film several times and work out the complicated bits. The trouble is I'm not sure that many people are going to be bothered to try and that the film makers have made a big mistake with this one.

sheepy · May 23, 2003, 12:55:23 PM

from what i have heard, this from my friend who is a film buff, reads all the reviews etc,

the special effects are amazing, but the story line and scripting is sh!t, so u wont really want to watch it more than once

suicidal_monkey · May 23, 2003, 02:21:20 PM

I think you'll find the story line is actually getting more in depth and twisted, rather than being "sh!t" although thats what the thick US (and British

) audiences might think. I wanna watch it again to see if theres something we missed that might suggest another theory about whats happening, although the one we are guessing will keep the psychoanalysts happy

Plus I wouldn't mind seeing those fight scenes again.

The story is not done justice by most of the main actors (pity they didnt have a different Neo really) Some true "Arnie having to speak in whole sentences" style shows through :roll: The general acting and some of the scene selection is questionable (morpheus' speech about 30 minutes in and then ...rather odd I thought, not much to do with the story at all

) It has a cast containing several rather mediocre actors, many of whom have trouble pulling off the "serious" bits, but then its an action movie with underlying storyline for those who care to think about it

The action is great as you'd expect.

Still a great film that you gotta see if you liked the first one, although you will then have to watch the 3rd because this one ends in a really annoying cliffhanger way...

p.s. Agent Smith(s) is easily the best character/actor in the film

smilodon · May 23, 2003, 02:53:36 PM

Even down to the "........To be continued."

Will they start The Matrix Revolutions with "........previously on The Matrix Reloaded"

A Twig · May 23, 2003, 03:00:16 PM

I'm seein it tonite, Ill let u know what I thought of it!

suicidal_monkey · May 23, 2003, 03:50:40 PM

mmm, the ending "to be concluded" caught me completely unawares. I was like "omg how can they end there like that. noooooooooooooo. whens the next one out?" as were most of the people I went with. I need to discuss it over a few beers really...

Stryker · May 23, 2003, 04:12:20 PM

I've seen "matrix reloaded" again since my last post. BIG TIP, see it again!! this time round I'd already seen all the special effects so I had more concentration for the plot.... and yes there is lots to pick up on.

There are some comments made in the film that only make sense when you've seen more of the plot at the end :-)

smilodon · May 23, 2003, 04:51:08 PM

And spookily enough even the game makes more sense now I've seen the film.

Tutonic · May 23, 2003, 05:13:54 PM

I saw it on wednesday night (first showing! whoot!) and yesterday, and I think its a brilliant film.

The dialogue is a bit shakey in places, and some of the philosphical rants are a bit hard to follow the first time round (especially the architect

), but the plot is great (if your a fan), with an absolutely mind-bending twist at the end of the film.

I wont post my thoughts on this now, dont want to spoil the film for others

Cadaver · May 23, 2003, 08:19:49 PM

I saw it this afternoon. I think I'm going to have to go and see it again.

The first time through you tend to marvel at all the special effects gubbins. However, there's also a lot going on to develop the plot which, I admit, lost me a bit as I wasn't concentrating on it enough.

The second film of a trilogy is always the hardest - it's the one that carries the 'meat' of the story. Hats off to the Wachowski brothers for having the gumption to not dumb this one down and make it 'lowest common denominator' viewing.

Gh0st Face Killah · May 24, 2003, 10:01:09 AM

I'm seeing it tonight and looking forward to it. The game is written to go hand in hand with the second film and the idea being that they help explain each other. The brothers have been very clever about the whole thing, all of the things they do around the matrix are interlinked, Obviously the trilogy, but to include the game and the animated shorts as part of that is an excellent idea. The Animatrix when its released will cover before the first film and some bits that branch off from the films.

A Twig · May 24, 2003, 11:43:45 AM

What a film. The depth in the philosophical arguments was quite simply astounding, as the film was basically a hypothetical model for the discussion on Cause and Effect or Free Choice, and the various perspectives on this were quite simply amazing. Hats off the the Wachowski brothers, top notch film, I;m gonna have to go and see it again...