NetKar Pro D-day

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vobler

Jaap Wagenvoort on 220408 1016
One thing I can say: if 1.0.3 is not here within 6 months, I think that I will give up this project as well  It simply must be out there before that.


So that means that at 221008 he will give up Netkar Pro if 1.03 is not released. Just a little over one month guys! Get a move on!

ref:
http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showpost.php?p=3762584&postcount=83

Doorman

:doh: :rolleyes: :g: :lmfao: :flasher::tumbleweed::busted:










     

vobler

So, do you think he will make it? Saw your posts. The last one made him smile though. :D

He was asking for my point. It was a friendly reminder that if they don't get going he will also end up looking bad.

Gnomie

I really hope we'll see some development soon.. I think this sim has a tremendous potential!

vobler

Quote from: Gnomie;246831I really hope we'll see some development soon.. I think this sim has a tremendous potential!

I'm sure you have seen this, but if you didn't here is some "new" info:
http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showpost.php?p=3899089&postcount=144

Gnomie

Quote from: vobler;246832I'm sure you have seen this, but if you didn't here is some "new" info:
http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showpost.php?p=3899089&postcount=144

No I hadn't seen that. Thanks! :)

Doorman

Quote from: vobler;246832I'm sure you have seen this, but if you didn't here is some "new" info:
http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showpost.php?p=3899089&postcount=144
Did you see my 'defence' of you? :)










     

vobler

Quote from: Doorman;246844Did you see my 'defence' of you? :)

Yes, Thanks. After my opology he sent me a PM and all is well....:)

Gnomie

What's the online nKp community like nowadays? Is anyone playing at all..? One of the big promises with 1.03 is improved online functionality. Maybe I'll have to buy it if it turns out to be good, 'cause the physics in the demo totally amaze me!

vobler

Quote from: Gnomie;247083What's the online nKp community like nowadays? Is anyone playing at all..? One of the big promises with 1.03 is improved online functionality. Maybe I'll have to buy it if it turns out to be good, 'cause the physics in the demo totally amaze me!

It's just about only GPC. (http://www.gpchampionship.com/) I tried to race there one season but was not good enough to get a spot on the 15 car grid. About 100 people was trying to race. Only 15 would get in.  They where running servers with prequalification to pick the top 15. They tried to make it better by using 2 servers. I think I raced only once.

The feel is good but not up too iRacing standards, probably because of better tracks in iRacing. Also 3 (4) cars is not enough to make a big impact. But I will of cause try it when it is released.

As I have said before I try to get the best experience out of my sim racing as I can. I have spent 2 and a half in LFS, got Netcar when it was out, I raced a season in rFactor (Porsche). As it is now, iRacing is "it" for me. If Netkar really is good and takes off, I might change my mind.

Time will tell.

Gnomie

So you think the physics/feel is even better in iRacing than nKP? That is interesting indeed. I wish I could just try iRacing for a little while on a PC that's good enough to handle it. :/

But why is there only one server up if there are so many people who are interested in nKP? :g:

Doorman

Quote from: Gnomie;247088So you think the physics/feel is even better in iRacing than nKP? That is interesting indeed. I wish I could just try iRacing for a little while on a PC that's good enough to handle it. :/

One man's 'perfect' is another man's 'meh' The truth is, as I see it, every simulation has got it right in some departments. They've all got it wrong in some other departments. One day a sim will come along and have it right in ALL departments! Having said that, some people will still think it's wrong in some departments! :rolleyes:

Quote from: Gnomie;247088But why is there only one server up if there are so many people who are interested in nKP? :g:

The netKar community is disillusioned with the broken promises and lack of communication by the developers. Most agree it's a very good sim which needs some flaws fixing. However 2 years and Kunos/Stefano practically admitting he had better things to do has alienated people. Therefore servers haven't been raised. I've run a nkp server and only Verner or L56 has turned up. So we return to where the racing is. :)










     

vobler

Quote from: Gnomie;247088So you think the physics/feel is even better in iRacing than nKP? That is interesting indeed. I wish I could just try iRacing for a little while on a PC that's good enough to handle it. :/

But why is there only one server up if there are so many people who are interested in nKP? :g:

1. Yes, I think iRacing's feel is better than current 1.02 NetKar. By a good margin too. But as I said, I could be the superb tracks in iRacing that does that. The Radical is by far the best car in iRacing with the Skip Barber on a close second. The Mazda i cant get a grip on, but they say it will be updated next season. (in 2 weeks)

2. Netkar has so many issues (bugs) with online driving that most people is put off by it. Some bugs so bad it is astounding that its not fixed. Like when upgrading from 1.01 to 1.02 TWO years ago, the developer made new physics(tires) on the F3 car. It ruined it. It was not possible to loose traction in the rear. It is not fixed to this day. The FFord cars has a manual transmission. At certain times the engine cuts out when using a shifter. Very low frame rates unless you have a superb rig. Jumping cars. Warping, Cars left on track if driver leaves... I could go on. You really need to be a fanboy to race it in 1.02 state. (And that state leaves just one usable car, the F2000)

I consider iRacing to be in the state that LFS was 1 year ago, but with even a better feel. iRacing has the momentum. Its like a tsunami. New updates, cars and tracks is added almost weekly. It's got to be a winner in the long run.

NetKar could gain a great deal of followers if it works as intended. And some content is added. The fact that iRacing does not make it possible for teams/friends to race together is very off putting for some. Netkar has this local server possibility (like LFS)  so it would make a great step from LFS to something better if one would prefere not going the iRacing route.

Gnomie

Thank you both for your interesting replies. :)

I've been playing the nKP demo a lot today. After I realised you can press "H" to turn off some of the more fancy graphics it's running smoothly at 60FPS at 1920x1200 with 16xAF (I think anisotropic filtering is very important in racing games!). And I have to say, the force feedback in this game is, in my opinion, far better than in LFS. It's so easy to tell what the car is doing and when you're about to loose grip, which enables me to drive on the border. In LFS I'm driving much based on sound, actually (hearing the tires scrubbing before they let go) and not so much by feel, while in nKP it's opposite. I particularly like how the steering gets lighter when you're pushing too hard in wide, fast corners. How does iRacing feel in that regard?

If only I had £1000 to spare I'd buy a new PC right away with a year's subsciption to iRacing. I'm getting curious about that game.. but as it is, I think I'll wait for the nKP v.1.03, which will have an online demo. Maybe that will keep me satisfied for the time being. :)

Gnomie

Quote from: vobler;244431Jaap Wagenvoort on 220408 1016
One thing I can say: if 1.0.3 is not here within 6 months, I think that I will give up this project as well  It simply must be out there before that.


So that means that at 221008 he will give up Netkar Pro if 1.03 is not released. Just a little over one month guys! Get a move on!

ref:
http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showpost.php?p=3762584&postcount=83
Seems like he took his promise seriously..

Quote from: Jaap Wagenvoort;3907788On April 22nd 2008, 10:16 CET I stated the following:
Quote from: Jaap WagenvoortOne thing I can say: if 1.0.3 is not here within 6 months, I think that I will give up this project as well

Well, it is now October 22nd 2008, 10:16CET and netKar PRO 1.0.3 is not out yet.

Therefore I decided to do what I said. I think I will give up the project right now. I don't know what I will do from now on. See you around in the future... maybe.

Dunno what to make of that.. :crying: