Community Changes

[Penfold]

Really any form of cash is acceptable

We have a dedicated bank account so inter-bank transfers are fine. If people want to send us a cheques then that too is fine. I don't mind getting cheques then transferring the money to the account as needed (as would any of the admins I imagine).

At the end of the day we do need regular income for hosting, bandwidth and hardware so we all get to keep our little slice of heaven on the internet.

PEN

[OldBloke]

Really any form of cash is acceptable

PEN

However, we want to automate as much of the administration as possible. Which means that there will be a preferred means of subscribing which we will ask members to use in preference to any other method.

[delanvital]

I agree and will pay my subs, my point is with younger folks who may not have access to Paypal etc or the funds (no offence to any students out there ) but are worthy members of the community, perhaps could be given some latitude.

Paypal state that members much be 18 to legally use their services so I can see that being a problem for younger members. However, mostly when outside the UK since it costs a freaking surcharge of £3.5 for SWIFT/IBAN. That said, I don't think we have that many members in that situation? If so, they could either - buy for a longer period to avoid several transfers or pay in cash when at a LAN.

Regarding a student discount, with all respect, I don't think you can do the dmw arrangement any cheaper than £12 for a whole year (even w/o attending LANs).

Edit: with the new structure: if a game comes up, which requires server rental (like fx if we wanted a ranked bf2 server back then) would dMw consider funding such things now - or is the new structure budgetted to only provide approx the same inflow of cash as the old?

[Carr0t]

The game badges will only be for fully adopted games.

Sorry if i'm being thick, but i'm still a bit confused. Obviously we want to promote dMw on whatever games we play. Suppose someone has got the game badge for CS:S, but then goes to play some Insurgency on another server. Are they entitled to wear the dMw CS:S tag? Is the tag just not allowed to be used at all when playing games not officially supported by dMw?

[OldBloke]

... Edit: with the new structure: if a game comes up, which requires server rental (like fx if we wanted a ranked bf2 server back then) would dMw consider funding such things now - or is the new structure budgetted to only provide approx the same inflow of cash as the old?

We will always aim to provide what the community wants - as long as there's the numbers willing to support a new idea (critical mass).

We have no idea how many people will subscribe. We have included some benefits for subscribers as an inducement but if only the same people who used to donate subscribe and the LAN attendees remain the same then our income should be as it was. That will cover our costs for now but we need to have a small contingency fund so that, as happened recently, we don't need to rely on the goodwill of one of our members to provide temporary funding.

[Jabbs]

Sorry if i'm being thick, but i'm still a bit confused. Obviously we want to promote dMw on whatever games we play. Suppose someone has got the game badge for CS:S, but then goes to play some Insurgency on another server. Are they entitled to wear the dMw CS:S tag? Is the tag just not allowed to be used at all when playing games not officially supported by dMw?

Ah yes, I would like clarification on this one too

Thanks!

[b00n]

I'd like to think that £1 a month is a small enough amount for anyone's budget tbh. Besides, like the venerable one said, it's not compulsory.

PEN

To be honest I thought that £1 a month was not very much at all, are you sure that's all that's needed?  I'm quite sure many people could afford and would be prepared to pay at least double that.

[OldBloke]

Sorry if i'm being thick, but i'm still a bit confused. Obviously we want to promote dMw on whatever games we play. Suppose someone has got the game badge for CS:S, but then goes to play some Insurgency on another server. Are they entitled to wear the dMw CS:S tag? Is the tag just not allowed to be used at all when playing games not officially supported by dMw?

We most definately *do* want to promote our excellent playing style on other servers so, as a general rule, ask the Section Head to make a call on it.

It's fairly obvious that there will be considerable crossover where very similar game-types are involved. For instance: someone who has played copious amounts of CounterStrike and has been awarded their CS badge will, when being considered for their CoD4 badge, be looked on with less scrutiny than someone without a FPS based badge. The similarities in teamwork and objectives are such that it could be safely assumed that one befits the other. However, in *all* cases it's the Section Head that will make the decision.

[Jabbs]

We most definately *do* want to promote our excellent playing style on other servers so, as a general rule, ask the Section Head to make a call on it.

It's fairly obvious that there will be considerable crossover where very similar game-types are involved. For instance: someone who has played copious amounts of CounterStrike and has been awarded their CS badge will, when being considered for their CoD4 badge, be looked on with less scrutiny than someone without a FPS based badge. The similarities in teamwork and objectives are such that it could be safely assumed that one befits the other. However, in *all* cases it's the Section Head that will make the decision.

Thanks OldBloke but could you clarify what sections the secondary games come under?  Ta.

[Zootoxin]

For instance: someone who has played copious amounts of CounterStrike and has been awarded their CS badge will, when being considered for their CoD4 badge, be looked on with less scrutiny than someone without a FPS based badge. The similarities in teamwork and objectives are such that it could be safely assumed that one befits the other. However, in *all* cases it's the Section Head that will make the decision.

So, If you play a little bit of CS. A little bid of COD4. The occasional taste of LFS and Lots for insurgency you're in danger of having no badges?

[Doorman]

So, If you play a little bit of CS. A little bid of COD4. The occasional taste of LFS and Lots for insurgency you're in danger of having no badges?

Common sense on behalf of the section admins will ensure that everyone gets their just desserts. :norty:

[Penfold]

So, If you play a little bit of CS. A little bid of COD4. The occasional taste of LFS and Lots for insurgency you're in danger of having no badges?

It's not meant to be punitive. Tags (like Charlie) are not awarded on how often you play or your skill level (thank God!), but more on your ability to play as a teamplayer and to fit into the dMw ethos/spirit of game play.

The Section Heads aren't stupid (well for the most part ) and common sense will prevail.

PEN

[OldBloke]

Thanks OldBloke but could you clarify what sections the secondary games come under?  Ta.

Only supported games have a section. Secondary (other) games don't come under any section so I don't really understand the question.

As I said in an earlier example - if you want to wear the tag you've earned for CounterStrike in another similar but unsupported game/mod then ask the Section Head of CounterStrike it it's appropriate to do so.

[Jabbs]

Only supported games have a section. Secondary (other) games don't come under any section so I don't really understand the question.

No problem, thanks.  I was misunderstanding your earlier reply (see the cut down version below) re asking the Section head but of course secondary games (Insurgency for example) don't have a Section head. One could assume that this would be Whitey's domain I guess but we all know what assuming means don't we? ASS U ME

...as a general rule, ask the Section Head to make a call on it...
... However, in *all* cases it's the Section Head that will make the decision.

[KKND]

When is payment taken place also next year ore this year.:g: