Community Changes

[Blunt]

-(btw, I always wonder who the "blunt" playing on other UK servers, mainly UKCS, is...)

Not me m8:D

[DogMeat]

You can only wear a tag if you are playing a game where you have been awarded the badge for it.

Will there be a test?

:eyebrow:

[RizZy]

Will there be a test?

:eyebrow:

I can't say I'm over keen on the whole deal with having to prove myself worthy of wearing the tag in each & every game we might happen to play, i thought we signed up to the dmw way as a package with an agreement that we played games like there ment to be played whatever that game may be.

[smilodon]

I don't believe there's any restriction on playing any of the games dMw host, with the exception of WOW where as I understand it, more traditional raiding guild requirements are in place. We can still log into CS:S or have a go at L4D etc. Only the community standards, which have always applied, govern what we can do on our servers.

The gaming tags are just a recognition and symbol that we play a specific game a lot and have positively contributed to that game within the community. As I understand it we can still play the games hosted here whether we have a badge or not.

I'll play the odd game of CS:S but I doubt I'll ever wear a CS:S forum badge, as I don't play that often or contribute anything specific to the section. So I can freely play the game without having to work towards the badge.

[OldBloke]

I can't say I'm over keen on the whole deal with having to prove myself worthy of wearing the tag in each & every game we might happen to play, i thought we signed up to the dmw way as a package with an agreement that we played games like there ment to be played whatever that game may be.

That is indeed true were we just playing team-based first person shooters which is why I said in one of my earlier replies that there will be a lot of crossover. But, for example, we now support a driving section for racing sims. What we identified was that it was not appropriate for members of Charlie Section (as was) to wear the Dead Men Racing tag (dMr) while they were coming to terms with the skills needed to drive properly. Just as guests on our CounterStrike servers judge us by the way we play - guests on our racing servers will judge us by the way we drive. If they see a tag-wearing driver lurching around the track then that damages our reputation. So if we have this 'test' of suitability to wear the dMr tag then, to be fair, we must have it for all sections.

[Zootoxin]

Lets just say there are four people playing COD4 all long serving members of the dMw community but none of them have a badge..

Also on said server are some publics, there are no badge wearing dMw's playing.

Wouldn't this undermine the status of the 4 dMw players, fail to display the dMw ethos and promote more lax attitude from the publics, who think there are no admins to punish their mis-behaviour?

[DuVeL]

Lets just say there are four people playing COD4 all long serving members of the dMw community but none of them have a badge..
 
Also on said server are some publics, there are no badge wearing dMw's playing.

There are more people in -=[dMw]=- that are into CoD4 (especially after the LAN) but don't have the time to play it on the days most people are on (me as example).
I reckon the apropiate admins take the right measurements or you could allways drop them a friendly PM. :flirty:
 
EDIT, In most games I play online I use my tag. Sometimes people just ask what it stands for or you get people who know our tag from matches or other games.

[OldBloke]

Lets just say there are four people playing COD4 all long serving members of the dMw community but none of them have a badge..

Sorry Zoot but that's too vague a scenario for me to answer properly. For example those four could all be highly respected long term members of Dead Men Racing trying CoD4 for the evening. Do you want to see them wearing the CoD4 tag while they stumble around learning the ropes? Works both ways.

Don't get too hung up on this change in tag wearing rules. Large doses of common sense will be applied when the decisions on who gets to wear what are made by the Section Heads.

[sulky_uk]

i decided to start this as a new topic as i didnt want to clog up the offical thread
 
what we need to do is edge on the side of cautiion, ill explain
 
once upon a time there was (and still is ) a clan called RIP( the one the big boys and i was a member of), now this clan was primarily for bf2. At the start everything was good in RIP land, the leaders decided to use army ranks and badges to donate ppls standing in the clan, at first everyone was happy even sgt sulky. After a few months ppl started to notice tha newer members were getting immediate promotions to officer ranks because they played for 10 mins more a week than him or her.
 
Some ppl werent happy(and other things which im not going in to) with this, so needless to say ppl started leaving because they were seeing Newbies(for a better word) getting promoted above them and showered with badges.
 
Eventualy some of the clan founders left, paddy,magnus and dewey decided that things werent the way they had imagined at the start and that the ranks and badges system was being abused(as well as some other details which i wont.....).
 
sgt sulky decided to stick it out for a while, he was the temp oic of the training academy and the chief helo instructor. Youll be rewarded sulky was told, in fact sulky was putting in far to much bf2 and neglecting his other clan (cant remember their name :narnar:). to cut a long story short it turned out that sulky wasnt rewarded and some new guy got his job so sulky lost his admin powers, etc, which even affected how he trained new helo pilots.
 
Sulky aired his views publically on the forums and waited, but nothing form the clan leaders and so left. funny thing about a month later 90% of the bf2 players left and formed a new clan with no ranks and everyone equal, the only thing is ppl do a probation period when they join.
 
the end
 
 
 
I only hope section admins have a sensible head on them, i dont play cs:s or cod4 or much as i would like too at the moment due to work issues, but if i was told i couldnt wear my dmw tags i would be angry.
 
 
The reason why i ask for caution is that a wee while ago i was told that i couldnt admin the dmw servers as there were to many and we needed a level playing field. there was a course offered and i was happy to doit but i had to go away for a while o dig in some sand. Now i went away for a couple of months to a nice place and come back and find loads of admins some of who were bravos at the time and some who id never seen before. i was angry and didnt aire my opinions as i was too ****ed off
 
Same goes for cod4 i was there for the whole time at the start trying to help get the server up, i offfered to be an admin and i was told i wouldnt be as they had some , which coincidently turned out to be most of the css admins, newer ppl included  as well, which also didnt please a couple of other ppl, im not going to name names as i get on with all of you here but i just wanted to aire my worries  over past occurences.
 
this is not an excuse for a flaming, i ask only that post sensible opinions in response, as in how you really feel as i think ppl could be scared to do so.
 
i have enjoyed my time here and i like everyone here and i want to stay here
 
if anyone really doesnt like what i said then pm me not flame me
 
rant over

[Anonymous]

Thanks for the post Sulky, it is appreciated that you felt you could be open about your feelings. We will, of course, take this on-board.

[OldBloke]

I'll echo what BlueBall has said and also thank you for your candid post.

I would like to say this as a message to everyone ...

What we have here at Dead Men Walking is a very special community. We rightly pride ourselves on our long established reputation for mature attitude, fairplay and teamwork. The people charged with running our community will do their utmost to ensure that that reputation is enduring. We have the difficult task of trying to provide a structured community with rules and guidelines whilst always remembering that at the end of the day it must also be fun.

This would be a lot easier if we, the people running our community, were all board members of some large multinational company. But we're not. So please remember - although we all try to be as professional as we can, in truth we're just a bunch of volunteers doing our best to provide the community with the best gaming experience we possibly can.

[DogMeat]

I'm not usually allowed to comment on changes to -=[dMw]=-, but I can keep quiet no longer:

I think we need to hit the ground running, keep our eye on the ball, and make sure that we are singing off the same song sheet. At the end of the day it is not a level playing field and the goal posts may move; if they do, someone else may have to pick them up and run with it. We therefore must have a golf bag of options hot-to-trot from the word 'go'. It is your train set but we cannot afford to leave it on the back burner; we've got a lot of irons in the fire right now.

We will need to un-stick a few potential poo traps but it all depends on the flash-to-bang time and fudge factor allowed. Things may end up slipping to the left and, if they do, we will need to run a tight ship. I don't want to re-invent the wheel but we must get right in to the weeds on this one. If push comes to shove, we may have to up stumps and then we'll be in a whole new ball game.

 
I suggest we test the water with a few warmers in the bank. If we can produce the goods then we are cooking with gas. If not, then we are in a world of hurt. I don't want to die in a ditch over it but we could easily end up in a flat spin if people start getting twitchy. To that end, I want to get round the bazaars and make sure the movers and the shakers are on-side from day one. If you can hit me with your shopping list I can take it to the head honchos and start the ball rolling.


There is light at the end of the tunnel and I think we have backed a winner here. If it gets blown out the water, however, I will be throwing a track. So get your feet into my in-tray and give me chapter and verse as to how you see things panning out. As long as our ducks are in a row I think the ball will stay in play and we can come up smelling of roses.


Before you bomb burst and throw smoke, it is imperative we nail our colours very firmly on the mast and look at the big picture. We've got to march to the beat of the drum. We are on a sticky wicket. We'll need to play with a straight bat and watch out for fast balls.


I've been on permanent send for long enough and I've had my ten pence worth. I don't want to rock the boat or teach anyone to suck eggs. We must keep this firmly in our sight picture or it will fall between the cracks. If the cap fits, wear it, but it may seem like pushing fog up a hill with a sharp stick.

[Doorman]

Very succinct and, as usual, very helpful if I may say so. Thank you for your valuable input.

[Penfold]

LOL Doggers - that should be compulsory coursework on the avoidance of mixed metaphors :lmfao:

The idea of the badges is not 'rank' as such Sulks, but more to identify the games that people play. It's not meant to be restrictive and it's not punitive.

PEN

[BrotherTobious]

I just think I hit 6 full houses in b***hit bingo ( a great game to play on conference calls)