Tags v Badges

smilodon · November 27, 2008, 05:58:36 PM

I'm posting this as I'm a little uncertain about the difference. Well that's not exactly true. I'm fully on board with the forum badges but it's the -=[dMw]=- tag that has me a little confused. Am I right in thinking that the right to use the tag in CS:S, COD4 etc is no longer through simply being an active member of the general community? Is it now something that is given exclusivly by the Section Heads?

For example I very occasionally come onto the CS:S servers. I would always appear as -=[dMw]=-smilodon, by virtue of being a Charlie member. I'll be buying L4D very soon and again would use my 'clan tag' for that. However as it stands I'm not a regular CS:S player and have not done anything to support or promote the section. So I'm assuming I would have to remove the -=[dMw]=- and play as just smilodon.

I get the idea of a -=[dMw]=- tag not granting a -=[dMr]=- tag as they are completely different games. But if I had a -=[dMw]=- tag for CS:S then I'd have to remove if I wanted to play the odd game of COD4?

Have I got this right or am I being thick? In my defence I don't think the staus of the clan tag is that clear. It seems to have a few forum members a little confused. Or I've simply missed some crucial forum announcement :doh:

Whitey · November 27, 2008, 06:38:03 PM

In your example you would be entitled to use the tag in CS and you would have the little CS icon. For me it's not about how active you are in a particular game but how you play on the occasions you do play CS. This would be the same for anyone in Charlie now that has earned their Charlie status while playing CS (even OldBloke :flirty:).

As far as my understanding goes, if you were not awarded the CoD4 tag by Arm, then you would need to play without the dMw| before your name on CoD4.

OldBloke · November 27, 2008, 06:59:08 PM

Quote from: Whitey;252780In your example you would be entitled to use the tag in CS and you would have the little CS icon. For me it's not about how active you are in a particular game but how you play on the occasions you do play CS. This would be the same for anyone in Charlie now that has earned their Charlie status while playing CS (even OldBloke :flirty:).

As far as my understanding goes, if you were not awarded the CoD4 tag by Arm, then you would need to play without the dMw| before your name on CoD4.

Perfect answer Whitey ... but I'm watching you :flirty:

Penfold · November 28, 2008, 09:52:45 AM

This needs more clarification .

Ron, for instance your post :

Quote from: Doorman;252813I was under the impression the 'steenkin' padges' simply denote the games that you DO play. I don't play WoW so I wouldn't expect the 'padge' That doesn't mean that IF I wanted to play WoW (or any other s*dding game) I wouldn't be able to 'dMw' up, so to speak. However, I DO play LFS, CS:S and CoD4. I post a lot of crap in the forum so I hope I get a forum 'padge'. I've been to loads of LANs so....etc. Another 'however' if I decide to dip my toe into...(name the game) and don't like it, I wouldn't expect a 'padge' for that game.
That doesn't mean I'm a bad person
If I reread that I wont post it so 'click'

You have just done a complete about face on what you said before. You strongly said that you didn't want people rocking up to the racing server and to wear the dMr tag just cos they are Charlie members and that you would give it only to people you felt deserved it.

Whitey said he didn't want racers turning up to the CS servers sporting the CS:S tag.

I've deleted a couple of posts from that thread cause, frankly, it making us look like a complete pack of disorganised twats.

Lets finalise once and for all WHAT we're going to do and HOW we're going to achieve it .

We need to sort out 1. badges 2. in-game tags.

It was the Game Section Admins that started this issue of cross-tagging not me. YOU guys sort it out and decide how you want the in game tags to work.
PEN

This was all agreed at the LAN meeting. If it's not right and you guys want to change it then fine but do it here and don't just do an about face in a public forum .... that's just bang out of order.

Quote from: Penfold;250552
3. Tags

To differentiate between the games it was decided to implement a system of icons under the person’s name in the forum. These would include individual gaming tags (LFS, COD, CS:, WoW) as well as a Community tag for good forums use, LAN tag for attendees and a subscriber tag for those people who donate. The LAN and Subscriber Tag will be renewable on an annual basis. Someone suggested Section Admins have their own tag for Section Admins and one for Game admins.

This gives the membership something tangible to aim for as well as hoping to push donations. People will want to collect the tags as a prestige badge of honour (kinda like virtual ASBO’s!).

Once a Section Admin has decided a player is suitable then the tag will be awarded.
Golden Badge: Once a member has collected 1. Any game tag 2. A Community tag 3. Either a Subscriber or a LAN Attendee tag, then they will be awarded a FULL COMMUNITY badge. These people are tops!

Whitey · November 28, 2008, 12:07:17 PM

I still agree with what was decided at the LAN. I think we need to just clarify that people who have been awarded the tag/badge by any of the Section heads on a dMw game will be fast tracked on any other dMw game.

For example: If someone has the dMr tag, then I know they are a mature level headed person. If they decide to play CS and have a grasp of the TCS rules then they would be awarded the CS tag/badge, no waiting for 3/6 months.

Penfold · November 28, 2008, 07:13:37 PM

If I remember we discuss this but I'm not sure what the general consenus was on it.

http://www.deadmen.co.uk/forum/showpost.php?p=252903&postcount=100

Quote from: Blunt;252903The answer is then, that if I wanted to try my hand at driving on our dMr server I should wear my CSS -=[dMw]=- tag and all my comrades would know that I was a community member and a racing n00b.
Likewise, if a dMr tries out CSS with that tag, we would all be in the picture.
It happens occasionally with some SoG'ers, they wore that tag on our CSS server and we were all happy.
:2cents:

I'm happy with it so long as it's not confusing for someone joining our servers to potentially see 4 different tags in use.

Thoughts?

PEN

OldBloke · November 28, 2008, 07:34:48 PM

It is difficult. I would prefer that no tag is worn at all but I can see how the members feel that they should advertise that they are dMw.

What about a generic dMw tag that says 'I have a tag for another game but not for this one?" :g:

Nope. Changed my mind. No tag. Let them earn it or go without.

OldBloke · November 28, 2008, 07:39:56 PM

Quote from: OldBloke;252909It is difficult. I would prefer that no tag is worn at all but I can see how the members feel that they should advertise that they are dMw.

What about a generic dMw tag that says 'I have a tag for another game but not for this one?" :g:

Nope. Changed my mind. No tag. Let them earn it or go without.

Although BB thinks differently. :doh:

Doorman · November 28, 2008, 07:41:57 PM

Quote from: OldBloke;252914Although BB thinks differently. :doh:

Likewise.

OldBloke · November 28, 2008, 07:44:45 PM

Quote from: Doorman;252915Likewise.

Let's hear your idea then.

Anonymous · November 28, 2008, 07:56:44 PM

Quote from: OldBloke;252914Although BB thinks differently. :doh:

I think differently because, at the end of the day, I feel we are a community first and people that play different games second.

Consequently, you could be long standing badge holder of one game who might like the occasional dabble at another game, I wouldn't expect to wear that badge but I would expect to be able to wear something that shows I am a community member, otherwise I'm just some other bloke on the server

Armitage · November 28, 2008, 07:57:16 PM

We agreed this at the LAN. because of the DMR'er and the WOW'ers. Even though I have no problem with CS'ers and DMr's wearing the COD tag.

But we need to give it a try.

:frusty::rant::hug2:

OldBloke · November 28, 2008, 08:43:17 PM

I have no problem with people thinking differently but, please, keep the debate in this section and not in open forum.

If the majority decision made here is that no tags are to be worn then we already have two Section Heads saying otherwise in open forum.

A decision on how we would progress the community was made at the LAN and agreed by everyone there. Please make sure that you do not convey a different message while we struggle to even get the basic message across.

Penfold · November 28, 2008, 08:56:13 PM

:withstupid: Please

I don't really care about the answer more than the fact that when we announce it we we have to present a united front lest we seem like a bunch of incompetent idiots. Collective Responsibility and all that.

You guys decide the details and I'll happily tow the party line.

PEN

Anonymous · November 28, 2008, 10:34:53 PM

Quote from: OldBloke;252926I have no problem with people thinking differently but, please, keep the debate in this section and not in open forum.

If the majority decision made here is that no tags are to be worn then we already have two Section Heads saying otherwise in open forum.

A decision on how we would progress the community was made at the LAN and agreed by everyone there. Please make sure that you do not convey a different message while we struggle to even get the basic message across.

Seems to me that there is so much confusion that I wonder if anything that was debated at the LAN should be accepted?

If this was debated and decided then FFS the Section Heads should have agreed by now what we are going to do.