L4D2 Boycott Group

[Tutonic]

I was referring about your decision to try and swerve this post off-topic, which is both childish and pointless.

Go and moan elsewhere - this forum is for Left 4 Dead, thanks.

[smilodon]

I was referring about your decision to try and swerve this post off-topic, which is both childish and pointless.

Go and moan elsewhere - this forum is for Left 4 Dead, thanks.

sweet

[DaRkLiGhTeR]

now now children play nice

anyway im on xbox for this and dont agree at all if they did l4d2 as downloads we wouldnt get any of it. you know all those nice big updates for tf2 youve been getting like the sammich etc? we dont get any of those so a new game is a way of guarenteeing that we do actually get something. dont really care if it looks like the first one or whatever they probably havent even announced everything thats gonna be in it

o and theres a new multiplayer mode being created for this one and i do believe released for the original

[Tutonic]

you know all those nice big updates for tf2 youve been getting like the sammich etc? we dont get any of those

Guess who's fault that is? Valve had to move heaven and earth just to get Microsoft to let them put free updates out over Xbox Live.

If MS had their way, you would be paying for stuff that PC players got for free...

[DaRkLiGhTeR]

Guess who's fault that is? Valve had to move heaven and earth just to get Microsoft to let them put free updates out over Xbox Live.

If MS had their way, you would be paying for stuff that PC players got for free...

yeah but paying for it is better than not having it at all and it would be the same with l4d2 if they did that in downloads

[Carr0t]

I'm in!!

Now where do I sign up for the Modern War 2 boycott....

I loved Modern Warfare 1 single player. They never said they were going to provide regular free community updates like Valve did with L4D, and importantly the original game was worth the full price, something which i'd argue wasn't true with L4D. A lot of people paid that cash on the promise of free updates and Valve's past performance with TF2. As such, I wouldn't have said boycotting MW2 is really valid. Even if dMw stick with MW1 because 2 doesn't really add anything i'll still be buying MW2 just for the single player campaign.

[Armitage]

what's the idea behind the Modern War 2 boycott ??

[Zootoxin]

what's the idea behind the Modern War 2 boycott ??

Just Joking around matey! although I do hope it doesn't split the gamers by yet another dimension.

[smilodon]

I've no issue at all with Valve making a major upgrade and charging for it. I play WOW and was happy to buy BC and WothLK. I'm a big Total War fan and also had no issue with the various paid for expansions they brought out.

What bugs me is the way they will potentially split the community. Some could move over to L4D2 and some could stay with L4D. Where would the dMw go. Would we upgrade, not upgrade? That's my main issue. If Valve said 'Look the updates we want to make are just too big for an expansion. L4D2 simply would never be compatible with L4D. Technically they had to be new games as they have different engines' I would understand.

I just don't get why they are breaking the community and worry that they will drop L4D updates as Carrot suggests. With TF2 they stuck with one game, why not L4D. Guess I'm just suspicious that this was an accounting decision rather than a developer decision.

[Cipovell]

plz tell me how not buying l4d 2 will encourage valve too provide free updates for l4d? That doesnt make any sense to me.
Where in your line of thought does  Nerd rage boycott= free updates???

[T-Bag]

plz tell me how not buying l4d 2 will encourage valve too provide free updates for l4d? That doesnt make any sense to me.
Where in your line of thought does  Nerd rage boycott= free updates???

The boycott doesn't mean there will be a rash of new updates. What it means is the community would be less split (less people with L4D2 so more reason to play the original). The sales will also be worse, a clear sign that the community are unhappy with the lack of support.
It's not a magic fix, and it's the problem with a company like valve (continuous support) making games for consoles (no support).

Console philosophy is milk the customer dry (Ã,£40-50 initial price tag, and then any updates are often charged). PC philosophy is much cheaper games (most games pre-order for Ã,£20-25 ie Ã,£19.95 for L4D, updates and mods come routinely, most games receive multiple patches over their lifetime and many free mods out there ie NeoTokyo)

If they get the message that people are willing to hold off for a while to see what support is like before buying them we'll see several big early updates to L4D2 and the original soon after launch to try and restore confidence to the PC market who aren't willing to buy a game with the promise of updates and then have them ignore it for nearly a year adding no new levels but survivor (rather shocking compared to say a new campaign)

[GhostMjr]

Loads of new weapons and enemies

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/sdcc-09-left-4-dead/53209

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/sdcc-09-left-4-dead/53361

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/sdcc-09-left-4-dead/53359

[FrEnZy]

Flamming shotgun shells and grenade launchers are going a bit too silly for my liking.

of course I without any real judgement untill it's finished, but i'm nowhere near as excited about this as I was about L4D

[Tutonic]

It does seem a bit too comical. Frying pans? Really??!

Then again, the Rock Paper Shotgun boys gave it a massive thumbs up when they play-tested it at Valve HQ - and they're usually spot on in my opinion.

[OldBloke]

Frying pans? Really??!

And cricket bats apparently.