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Ability to see LAN Servers - Discussion

Started by GhostMjr, May 23, 2010, 10:45:51 PM

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GhostMjr

By default windows 7 will not share any files on a pc except for some shared user files.

There is a way to allow windows  to file share but overall this is limited by the fact that you must remove the login requiring password feature in network visibility.

Without this you won't be able to see anyone elses files as you will be prompted for a password if you click on their computer.

Overall we have had issues and i had alot when i was on xp.

If your not on vista/ windows 7 nows the time to upgrade and get ready for the next lan.

Is the reason we were having issues was because the server is built on a server platform and not on windows 7?

Maybe we could move the box over to windows 7 so it talks to our pc's that too are windows 7.

Overall cod 4 had issues and Arma i honestly think this could be the answer we are looking for.

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Thanks GhostMjr / Admin for moving these to a new thread..

TeaLeaf

Quote from: GhostMjr;310803Overall we have had issues and i had alot when i was on xp.
OTOH I had no issues with XP on my other machine at previous LANS and that was also in the same W7/Vista/XP mixedOS  network environment.
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GhostMjr

QuoteI had no issues with XP on my other machine at previous LANS and that  was also in the same W7/Vista/XP mixedOS  network environment.
I too didn't have any problems with xp until people moved to vista/win7.

Then the only way to see these computers wasn't to access them via the workgroup in xp but using an ip.

If we can have an windows  7 image on the server box to test at the next lan its worth a shout maybe this will solve the server issues :)

I have win 7 pro and could see some servers on / off.

Were peoples firewalls off too? I seem to remember a few not having the right cod version either.

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Whitey

I have moved these posts to a new thread to keep the original thread on topic.

Tutonic

The windows firewall can cause havoc when sharing files between XP/Vista/W7, it may be worth encouraging people to switch this off before arriving.
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Gone_Away

Quote from: Whitey;310813I have moved these posts to a new thread to keep the original thread on topic.

Thanks!

Gone_Away

Most of these issues began when folks migrated to Vista. Before then, we didn't have any issues like this. I had no problems with XP whatsoever.
 
I've joined a Microsoft working group and I'm exploring the issues with them (hence trying to get a view from the LAN attendees).
 
I do recall that a couple of LAN's ago, a number of us moved to Cat6 cable. I doubt that this could be root cause but also, could there be a clash between IPV4 and IPV6? I believe W7 uses the latter does it not? (sorry not an expert in this area)
 
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lionheart

We did have some issues at work a while back with HP printers not working on our network. The solution was to disable IPV6 in the printers control panel as both 4 and 6 are on by default. Might be worth trying to disable IPV6 in our machines at the next LAN.  If as you say things were ok before vista, wasn't Vista the first OS with IPV6?
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Tutonic

Quote from: Ninja_Freak;310819I do recall that a couple of LAN's ago, a number of us moved to Cat6 cable. I doubt that this could be root cause but also, could there be a clash between IPV4 and IPV6? I believe W7 uses the latter does it not? (sorry not an expert in this area)
 
NF

AFAIK, the hotel router is only capable of dishing out IP4 addresses - so nobody would have been using IP6
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lionheart

Quote from: Tutonic;310824AFAIK, the hotel router is only capable of dishing out IP4 addresses - so nobody would have been using IP6

Same as the network here, the prob was solved by disabling IPV6 (even though not active on the network or the device), I assumed it was some sort of  firmware conflict but never looked too deep as it was easy to fix the prob.
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TeaLeaf

The CAT5 to Cat6 cabling is definitley not an issue, that's a quality not protocol change, nothing more.

As Tut says, the router dishes out IP4 addresses and does not use IP6, so not sure what specifically you want to test NF?
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BrotherTobious

From a outside point of view, as all of you had connection to the Internet and some connection to each other and some games, I would suggest that the infrastructure is sound,  I believe it is more to do with peoples firewalls and not having the correct ports open.

my 2cents
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Gone_Away

Quote from: TeaLeaf;310884The CAT5 to Cat6 cabling is definitley not an issue, that's a quality not protocol change, nothing more.

As Tut says, the router dishes out IP4 addresses and does not use IP6, so not sure what specifically you want to test NF?

Was wondering if those on W7 disabled IP6 if it would make any difference. If that's not the answer then I'll keep looking :)