Team balancing

[Doorman]

A thought. Team balancing was a bit of an issue last night when one side or another was undermaned someone was asked to change 'why me, ffs' etc. etc. ensued and whoever was the big cheese at the time had to insist. Quite rightly. This would be avoided if, IF,people Auto selected when joining a game, or, as on some servers I have been on, team balancing is carried out automatically. No arguments, you suddenly find yourself in a different uniform! There must be a programme for it. Something to ponder maybe?  :sunny:

[OldBloke]

There are a couple of things to make clear regarding 'balance'.

Balance is achieved when both teams are as evenly matched as possible. :roll:
Having the same number of players in each team does not automatically make them balanced.
Balance is dynamic and has to be 'jigged' to maintain.
Yelling 'TEAMS FFS' does not balance the teams. :x
Different maps require different balance.
Unbalanced teams result in a crap game.

Guidelines:

Map change - Alternate teams. If you just played as a CT then choose T.
Joining - Spend a little time looking at the scores before selecting a team. Make your decision based on balance not personal preference. If in any doubt then after joining ask if your selection was OK.
If the scores indicate that balance is shot then at the start of a round both teams stay at spawn and get it sorted.
If you are asked to swap sides then do so with no verbals and no delay.

When the new server is running we will look at the auto-balance plug-in. Until then could everyone please use their common sense to make playing on the Meat Hook a pleasurable experience for both teams.

[FBG]

I think auto balance would suck. Like you said balanced teams has to take into account the map being played and the skill of the players on the team.

To be honest isn't PCS about cooperation!! if we cant sort out fair sides without complaining then were kind of missing the point.

[Dr Sadako]

Joining - Spend a little time looking at the scores before selecting a team. Make your decision based on balance not personal preference. If in any doubt then after joining ask if your selection was OK.
If the scores indicate that balance is shot then at the start of a round both teams stay at spawn and get it sorted.
If you are asked to swap sides then do so with no verbals and no delay.

Just want to add. If the teams and score are balanced join CT on bomb maps and hostage maps (and VIP). On bomb maps it is obvoius why you should join CT. On hostage maps the hostages are together at one spot and are easier to defend than 2 bombspots i.e. the CTs are in need of the extra guy instead of T.

There are maps where hostages are spread out (not in dMw rotation though) where you can look at the situation as two bombsites. Then you should of course join the Ts instead. One example of such a map is cs_swarm that is in the rotation on Network 42 PCS.

[Gone_Away]

There are a couple of things to make clear regarding 'balance'.



When the new server is running we will look at the auto-balance plug-in. Until then could everyone please use their common sense to make playing on the Meat Hook a pleasurable experience for both teams.

Auto Balance is running at N42 and it has it's good and bad points. As we play to 9 wins or to time (20min?) it's a bit crappy when you're on a map that you don't necessarily like and the auto balance keeps the game on that map.

As I'm usually on the lower end of the score sheet (... well OK THE BOTTOM if you're asking ) it's OK getting transferred back and forth. I guess if you're at the top it may piss you off a bit.

[Stryker]

hmm, I guess if there are thoughtful peeps joing and leaving in mid map then the auto balancer would have the better players bouncing back and forth like a jack in the box.... I dont fair to well at that either! when I've been autobalanced in the past I've had a few...ermmm TK incidents :-)

But yes, I think human logic is always going to be the best choice.... however getting players to follow what oldie said re teams is the difficult one... :x

ooh, me pants are wet... better go to the can  :toilet:

[Doorman]

So that's a 'definately, maybe, no-way, certainly, you must be 'avin' a larf, great idea, piss off!' then.  

[Anonymous]

I reckon that any team with me in it is unbalanced  |:

[Anonymous]

I usually pick "auto" when I join the server. If the teams start becoming unbalanced (which happens, lets face it) then someone usually prompts us and says "can someone join other team". Thats no big deal, I just change teams (then keep killing the same people I did before :-))

I don't like autobalance. Team balance, as OldBloke says, is a bit of an art and isn't necessarily down to evening the numbers. I like the way that we can join any team we want and even it up that way.

What about an everybody v Smite match when he comes back :-)

[smite]

Oldie are there any admin mods that allow you to change people to another side rather than asking, i know asking is better but at the end of the day you still want them to move and that is what an admin is for..

Bollox to your smite Vs everyone ploy aswell i think everyone Vs Frenzy :twisted:

[Anonymous]

is that normal bollox or bluebollox?

[FBG]

like i said before if people cant take orders, something that clan matches are predominately reliant upon for a win, then kick them. May seem harsh but selfishness is the cause of frag monkeys, which i detest.

Theres no reason not to swap teams if asked and insolent replies gone unpunished breeds contempt. If you dont want to swap then ask and see if someone else will.

[DogMeat]

There are provisions in Admin Mod to forcibly swap players, lock teams (i.e. stop new players joining teh win) and so on.  Should I wait for Blackadder or start the promotions now?  Hmm, good idea for a poll...

[JonnyAppleSeed]

team change no problem....im in it for the game win or loose. as a pcs player it should be part of the job to change and level the teams ....But.....to do this at the right time is hard ....and who should change is not clear....at the end of the game the score should be close thus making the game better for all

god bless you

[Doorman]

Another thought  :idea: . God, I'm full of 'em! Wouldn't it be nice if a map was played for X amount of time, then we ALL swopped round and played as the opposite team ala match play? Then change the map.

Just thought I'd throw that in the pond and watch the ripples