Madness of Deathwing - DEFEATED 18/12/11

[TeaLeaf]

http://www.icy-veins.com/madness-of-deathwing-detailed-strategy

[TeaLeaf]

TLDR version:

1-2 tanks
3 healers
5-6 dps

P1: Strategy
-attack limb on platform (no aggro table)
-Tanks pick up Mutated Corruption (face away from raid) and DPS burn it down (before Crushing is cast)
-when add is killed MT is Impale debuffed, use CDs (PS/HoS etc) to survive, maybe even Dream Spell, may need an OT taunt if the Impale is itself debuffed
-Elementium Bolt cast, dps prio on it, stay max range from impact zone (yellow swirling graphic) if it is not going to die before it lands (damage increases with proximity)
-use raidwall is bolt is going to hit, or Ysera's Dream
-continue on Mutated Corruption tentacle until dead
-then back to limb
-Renegerative Bloods, tank in Time Zone (if Nozdormu up), single target them down using MA as they heal to full health every 10 secs (you can AOE them but only if they die within 10 secs)
-@limb 75%, 50% and 25% Blistering Tentacles spawn, use MA and focus DPS down (or Alexstraza will kill them)
-Cataclysm is cast as you finish limb and this means you have 60 seconds to finish the job and depart to next platform
-when a platform is 'saved' you lose that NPC's buff
-move to next platform, rinse & repeat, enter P2 when all 4 platforms saved

P2: Strategy
-all NPC buffs return
-follow to correct platform
-elementium fragments, no aggro, highest dps prio
-use Dream to survive Shrapnell
-tanks pick up Elementium Terrors fast, focus MA dps on them, tanks need CDs here
-liberal use of all raidwalls as required
-in general burn adds prio, then boss


NPC Buffs
Alexstrasza - +20% HP and destroys all Burning Tentacles in P1, lowers damage from Corrupted Blood in P2, probably 4th target
Kalecgos - +20% DPS buff, +splash damage on each attack, probably 3rd target
Nozdormu - +20% haste & Time Zone (slows bolt, -50% attack speed) - probably 2nd target
Ysera - +20% healing, Dream Spell & tentacle killer - generally weakest buff so probably first target

[TeaLeaf]

Last Normal mode boss left for this content patch, so let's make it a goodun on Tuesday!  Prep up folks!

[TeaLeaf]

Likely order is Ysera > Nozdormu > Kalecgos > Alexstrasza

Another possible is Ysera > Alexstrasza > Nozdormu > Kalecgos

Which strat we use depends on the effectiveness of the splash damage from Kalecgos buff.  If it works well then we won't need Alexstraza's add-killing buff and can AOE the Regenerative Bloods with the benefit fo the buff.  It's a little wierd though as some talk of AOE and others (inc Icy Veins) say:

Additionally, your raid will now have to manually kill the Blistering Tentacles each time they spawn. As these adds are immune to AoE, you will have to use single target attacks against them.

Ysera defintely seems best first.
Nozdormu seems sensible before Kalecgos.
Depends where we fit in Alexstrasza.


General DPS prios on each platform:

+00 sec - pull
+10 sec - big tenacle spawns at rear, burn it
+45 sec - elementium bolt, burn it, has to die (preferrably before it lands, certainly within 5.2 seconds of it landing)
+90 sec - regenerative bloods, dps down (either AOE or single target depending on strat)
+120 sec - Cataclysm starts casting
+180 sec - the world ends if boss arm/wing is not dead by now

move to next platform, rinse & repeat

Tank & Healer Prios
-watch tank CDs for Impale
-care on positioning (frontal cone)
-raidwalls for Elementium Blast if bolt is not destroyed and lands
-watch healing required on stacks from bloods

[TeaLeaf]

One final note.  This fight will probably end up being a 15 minute encounter (11 mins or so in P1, 3-4 mins in P2), so let's use your CDs accordingly and work out the maximum number we can get into the fight.

Shadow Priest
2 x (healing) Divine Hymn (8 min CD - first one must be early, within first approx 6 mins, i.e. on first two platforms)
3 x (mana) Hymn of Hope (6 min CD - first one must be within first 3 mins, i.e. on first platform)
Dispersion one bolt landing per platform to reduce healing requirement (2 min CD)

Disc Priest:
Power Word: Barrier(3 min CD) -25% damage for 10 secs, +10% healing
2 x (healing) Divine Hymn (8 min CD - first one must be early, within first approx 6 mins, i.e. on first two platforms)
3 x (mana) Hymn of Hope (6 min CD - first one must be within first 3 mins, i.e. on first platform)

Warrior
Rallying Cry (3 min CD) +20% HP for 10 seconds

Druid
Tranquility (non-resto 8 min CD)
Tranquility (resto 3 min CD)

Resto Shaman
Spirit Link Totem (3 min CD) -10% damage for 6 secs, 10yd range, HP redistribution

Holy Paladin
Aura Mastery (2 min CD) - +100% to Devotion/Resistance & Ret Auras

Prot Pala
Divine Guardian (3 min CD) -20% damage for 6 secs, range 30 yds

Unholy Deathknight
Anti-Magic Zone (2 min CD) -75% spell damage for 10 sec

How about your class?

[Azunai]

Rallying Cry every 3 minutes. Can be useful for 2nd and 4th Bolt, if it lands.. if you'd use Dream on 1st.

[Grimnar]

Grimnar:

8 min cd on tranq

for myself

3 min cd on survival instincts
1 min cd on barkskin

desperate action

Bear form and using its healing ability. (at the moment i don't know if i need the 15 seconds aswell or if that is only for raid healing (or am i mixing up patches) will check this and update it when i get home.

[TeaLeaf]

I've edited in the other class raidwalls of which I am aware, let me know if I missed one.

Elementium Blast is a fire damage spell, so we should plan to cover each blast & the first tick with a CD.  First tick is 5.2 secs after impact, so a 6 sec ability should be able to cover the initial blast plus a tick if timed well.  If we run a holy pala on this fight then AM might be ideal (assuming resistance aura is up and reduction in damage is sufficiently high - we might need to double it up with other CDs) as it would keep all other CDs available for P2 or other emergencies.  First platform should be golden anyway with the availability of Dream, so platforms 2, 3 & 4 are the main concern.

Platform 1
+00 sec - pull
+10 sec - big tenacle spawns at rear, burn it
+45 sec - DREAM SPELL - 50% damage reduction for 5 seconds
+45 sec - elementium bolt, burn it, has to die (preferrably before it lands, certainly within 5.2 seconds of it landing)
+50 sec - elemtium tick (might need a CD here if not dead)
+90 sec - regenerative bloods, dps down (either AOE or single target depending on strat)
+120 sec - Cataclysm starts casting
+180 sec - the world ends if boss arm/wing is not dead by now

Platform 2
+00 sec
+10 sec - big tenacle spawns at rear, burn it
+45 sec - RAID WALL
+45 sec - elementium bolt, burn it, has to die (preferrably before it lands, certainly within 5.2 seconds of it landing)
+50 sec - elemtium tick (might need a CD here if not dead)
+90 sec - regenerative bloods, dps down (either AOE or single target depending on strat)
+120 sec - Cataclysm starts casting
+180 sec - the world ends if boss arm/wing is not dead by now

Platform 3
+00 sec
+10 sec - big tenacle spawns at rear, burn it
+45 sec - RAID WALL
+45 sec - elementium bolt, burn it, has to die (preferrably before it lands, certainly within 5.2 seconds of it landing)
+50 sec - elemtium tick (might need a CD here if not dead)
+90 sec - regenerative bloods, dps down (either AOE or single target depending on strat)
+120 sec - Cataclysm starts casting
+180 sec - the world ends if boss arm/wing is not dead by now

Platform 4
+00 sec
+10 sec - big tenacle spawns at rear, burn it
+45 sec - RAID WALL
+45 sec - elementium bolt, burn it, has to die (preferrably before it lands, certainly within 5.2 seconds of it landing)
+50 sec - elemtium tick (DEFINITE RAID WALL as no slowing)
+90 sec - regenerative bloods, PROBABLE TANK CD IF NOZDORMU DOWN, dps down (either AOE or single target depending on strat)
+120 sec - Cataclysm starts casting
+180 sec - the world ends if boss arm/wing is not dead by now


Note:
45 sec timing is for cast of bolt, CDs are needed on LANDING not on cast
Need too inter-weave Impale CDs for tanks.
Need to have as many raidwalls as possible available in P2

[TeaLeaf]

Good solid Platform 4 performance tonight and consistently over 9 minutes into the  fight (we're ahead on dps by some way).  

We wiped when we got sloppy
-slow dps pick up on bolt/blazing/bloods
-missed a CD

Need to work out how to get out of the Elementium Bolt on platform 4.   We currently using
-spirit link (think it is active too early, needs a delay as it is almost expired at the point we take the damage)
-DG
-we're losing people to crush right after

Think we need to add one here to get us higher HP as we exit and do
-DG
-later spirit link combined with a tranquility or hymn

That should push us comfortably into P2 and the kill.  Looking forward to next week!

[Jesung]

I know that a few times I was a bit slow on the uptake of DPS'ing the Bolts, I also picked up my DPS considerably in the last 3 or so attempts from about 30k to 40k+ at some points. Also Puja had to shout at me for sticking on the Deathwing Tentacle rather than switching to the one at the back of the platform so that's something I can improve on.

[Slush]

Need to work out how to get out of the Elementium Bolt on platform 4.   We currently using
-spirit link (think it is active too early, needs a delay as it is almost expired at the point we take the damage)
-DG
-we're losing people to crush right after

Think we need to add one here to get us higher HP as we exit and do
-DG
-later spirit link combined with a tranquility or hymn

When that bolt is hitting, we need to use Tranq in addition to the Spirit Link Totem we have. There is so much damage incoming in such short duration of time, and the Spirit Link Totem is a short range healing "equalifier", meaning it doesnt do more healing, it just "levels out all health bars within 10yards" (feel free to read my new post in the healing section). The mechanics here makes it useful in some cases(with tranq)... less useful in others(with DG). And grouped up with Healing Rain + Tranq + Wild Growth... it is amazing.

When Bolt hits - I learned that spamming Whytee with Healing Surges is the only way to go to keep him up. So my Healing Rain might not be on the ground for a short duration of time. A Hpalas AoE healing is also weak compared to i.e. a druids Wild Growth in this little, but very hard potion of the fight.

[Arcticfire]

But it does reduces damage taken aswell

[Slush]

But it does reduces damage taken aswell

With 10%. For 6 seconds. If within 10 yards. This was a tricky bit yesterday. Getting ppl in the area before it expired.


Edit:
Would it be an idea... to take Nozdormus platform last?

NPC buffs:
Nozdormu - +20% haste & Time Zone (slows bolt, -50% attack speed)

This means we wont have to eat any bolts at all?
Here is a guild that is having the same problems we went through yesterday.
     http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1037558-Madness-of-Deathwing-issues-%2810man%29

[Whitey]

The thread Slush posted has some interresting points around the single tank strategy.  Due to the additional DPS, you shouldn't get a second Impale and that's what makes it possible.  Also the bubble isn't there to reset the stacks, it's to absorb the actual impale (Wait until cast starts->bubble->get hit->cancel bubble ASAP->taunt).  If we can get it down before the second impale then the bubble wouldn't be required on platforms 1-3.  

Where the bubble would be useful is on the last platform, everyone stack under the claw other than the tank and they bubble through the bolt and the second impale, which will hit as dps are out of range/moving due to stacking under claw.

[Azunai]

I reckon these are some good suggestions to try (not all together, but separate) based on that thread

- Drop a tank, add a DPS, thereby killing Corruptions before 2 impales and soaking the Impale using bubble/BoP

- Change platform order, allowing for the killing of the bolt on the last platform (losing Kalecgos, how big of an impact will this have on killing Regenerative Bloods?)

- Popping hero on last Corruption in order to kill it before the bolt comes in, removing the problem of Impale right after Bolt landing (same result as first option but only on the last platform, keeping 2 tanks). Question here is if our dps is high enough to kill tentacle before the bolt lands with 5 dps even with hero