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Started by OldBloke, November 14, 2003, 11:34:15 AM

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TeaLeaf

Both last man standing scenarios are valid TCS.

The thing to remember when TCS launches is that there is no black & white rule book to which you can refer.  Just apply some common sense, refer to your knowledge of the map limits (which were an original aide memoire) and flex them a bit.  Try not to be too prescriptive, let the game ebb and flow.  Do what it takes to make the gameplay as good as it can get.  That's TCS.

TL.
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Stryker

I'm very firm in the oppinion that last man standing should do everything he can to acheive the objectives even if it means certain death.... I have no time for people sitting on their thumbs when they are last man standing, its both impolite to all those dead and makes the game boring.
-=[dMw]=-Stryker

Doorman

QuoteOriginally posted by Stryker@Nov 14 2003, 07:54 PM
I'm very firm in the oppinion that last man standing should do everything he can to acheive the objectives even if it means certain death.... I have no time for people sitting on their thumbs when they are last man standing, its both impolite to all those dead and makes the game boring.
This is scarey, I have to say 'Ditto' to this one too.










     

Dr Sadako

If I am last man standing I will use the time available to achieve the objective. I will not rush to certain death just to get the next round going. Imo that is the opposite to TCS.

Then people might type kill to prevent CTs to get money for saving hostages just because they are too far away.
-=[dMw]=-Dr "Doc" Sadako

"Gravitation is not responsible for people falling in love." Albert Einstein

smite

QuoteOriginally posted by Stryker@Nov 14 2003, 07:54 PM
I'm very firm in the oppinion that last man standing should do everything he can to acheive the objectives even if it means certain death.... I have no time for people sitting on their thumbs when they are last man standing, its both impolite to all those dead and makes the game boring.
You and i think the same way about being the last man Stryker but you have to respect the JB's and sadako's who can totally dissorientate the other player by making him think "where the fk is he". I am all for the "sod it" wade in tactic (Which isnt really a tactic more of a kamikaze) but who is playing the game right??? ......We (me and you) would prefer to get the game over as we think sod it we dont have a chance whereas Sadako and JB would try to play with there minds and pick em off.....I cant play like that, wish i could but i cant.

What i hate to see is "sod it i dont have a chance im going to hide".......GET in THERE!! (my oppinion and it may be wrong) if money isnt an option at the start of a round what difference does keeping a gun matter.


Erm off to hibernate.........

smilodon

That's another point. Should how you did in a previous round (i.e. horded a gun or hid out of trouble) carry through to a new round. If every player got $10,000 every round win or loose, live or die then hording guns or hiding when out numbered would be pointless. And you could argue that no T would mount an operatin armed only with a Glock! They'd be tooled up as would the CT's. On the other hand it would quite possibly upset the dynamic of CS. Personally I think it's a concept too far.

Quote  * Stay with the hostages
  * Take up a strategic position away from the hostages where you can better prevent their rescue
I don't think you could call it either way. It depends on so many variables and would be a choice made onm the spot.

I could argue more convincingly that hiding would be the best option than say Sadako. He has a higher chance of taking out multiple CT's than me.So tthis logic suggests if I was facing Sadako, Oldie and TL, then I should hide but if Sadako was facing me Oldie and TL, then he should go for it.

It gets very confusing. I think "in the spirit of TCS" is the best an only guide we can rely on.
smilodon
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Anonymous

QuoteOriginally posted by smilodon@Nov 14 2003, 09:14 PM
Quote    * Stay with the hostages
    * Take up a strategic position away from the hostages where you can better prevent their rescue
I don't think you could call it either way. It depends on so many variables and would be a choice made onm the spot.

I could argue more convincingly that hiding would be the best option than say Sadako. He has a higher chance of taking out multiple CT's than me.So tthis logic suggests if I was facing Sadako, Oldie and TL, then I should hide but if Sadako was facing me Oldie and TL, then he should go for it.

It gets very confusing. I think "in the spirit of TCS" is the best an only guide we can rely on. [/b]
I think you have got pretty close to the mark there. Going for the "objective" is the main goal  but how you do that depends on the player. Sadako, JB and Frenzy could face up to many. Squonk 'n' me are good at protecting others from bullets, TL and OB are of course h4x0rs so their opinion doesn't count!!!!!!

Precis:

The best way to achieve the objective is HEAVILY dependant on the abilities of the player.

Consequently, if Sadako, JB or Frenzy went and hid when they were up against me then that aint PCS. If I wandered all over the map being sneaky and picking people off then that (for me) is PCS coz I'm crap up close 'n' personal.

Good point Smilo, hadn't considered this aspect before.

//Is it me or is this getting more complicated?

JonnyAppleSeed

nahh its not that complex  ;)

being in a last player situation as CT or T ...errm

ok im the last one alive ......my team is dead.....how can i play a team game ?
 
I cant i have no team ! but i can hide  ;) safe behind a map limit


limits off allow the other team to hunt him all over the map....with luck they will use some type of plan too  :unsure:
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Anonymous

Mmmm, is this going to conflict with our use of the phrase TCS?

Tactical CounterStrike UK

SLoWHaND

QuoteOriginally posted by BlueBall@Nov 15 2003, 05:47 PM
Mmmm, is this going to conflict with our use of the phrase TCS?

Tactical CounterStrike UK
Oh dear  :unsure:
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Dr Sadako

I don't see a copyright sign ...  :narnar:
-=[dMw]=-Dr "Doc" Sadako

"Gravitation is not responsible for people falling in love." Albert Einstein

OldBloke

I know this clan. I'll send them a message explaining that our clan/community name is still Dead Men Walking and that it's our playing style that's called TCS.
"War without end. Well, what was history if not that? And how would having the stars change anything?" - James S. A. Corey

smilodon

On an unrelated note when do we start making some bloody money out of the TCS malarkey?

http://www.cafepress.com/cp/info/sell/



 ;)
smilodon
Whatever's gone wrong it's not my fault.

OldBloke

Some serious work was done in the past by TL looking at that and other sites. POS tbh.
"War without end. Well, what was history if not that? And how would having the stars change anything?" - James S. A. Corey

smilodon

So do we have a consensus about last man standing play.

Do we acknowledge that there is a next round and that it might be better to hide and save our weapon? (NO)

Do we assume that each round is an individual event and everything must be done by the last man standing to win the round or inflict the greatest looses on the enemy before being killed? (YES)

Do we allow last men standing to try the sneak about/ambush/pick 'em off from a distance tactic? (YES)
smilodon
Whatever's gone wrong it's not my fault.