Double-Clicking is Good for DPS

[TeaLeaf]

This is not a trick question, but something that came up last night on TS during the raid break.

It has been proven (see Elitistjerks, MMO and other websites), that people who double or triple-click their next DPS ability do more DPS than those who just click the ability button once.  Why is this?

TLDR:
When you click an ability more than once it ensures that one of the clicks is queued for action by the server and minimises the amount of time when no ability is queued for action.  When you have an ability queued at the server it means you are maximising your DPS time.  An empty queues means no ability is being used and therefore you lose DPS.


So if you want to increase your DPS, click more often.  Seriously, it works.

[hubbah]

did not know this, but good thing im always spamming my buttons like a madman then.. think its more in the region of spamming it 10 times instead of 2 / 3

[Grimnar]

Hehe this is true. But as i already pressed my buttons 3 times i don't need to change

In wow it is hard to see this "effect" but in swtor you can really see this working..

[Vargen]

Hehe this is true. But as i already pressed my buttons 3 times i don't need to change

In wow it is hard to see this "effect" but in swtor you can really see this working..

It is more noticable in SWTOR due to not having auto attack. I've noticed some people and sometimes even myself forget to throw in the "free" ability when low on energy/force/whatever. From WoW I am already a triple/quad clicker when playing dps. As a healer you can take it a bit more easy, thank *insert imaginary friend*.

[Azunai]

I don't really get it... You hit the ability the milisecond it's off CD ( with prehitting to ensure it goes off the moment it can). Anything slower than that is ofc a dps loss - unless rotations require you to pause. 8-)

Or is this different for casters?

[Vargen]

I don't really get it... You hit the ability the milisecond it's off CD ( with prehitting to ensure it goes off the moment it can). Anything slower than that is ofc a dps loss - unless rotations require you to pause. 8-)

Or is this different for casters?

 Some caster abilities will actually cut into the previous one if spammed. IE channeled spells, or refreshing a DoT/HoT early, wasting mana etc

[TeaLeaf]

It's more the case of you mis-time your click Az.  Sometimes you think you hit it perfectly but the server does not get the queued action.   Hitting it a couple of times each time ensures no queue slot is missed.  It's been proved many times in many places by people trying both methods and finding a higher DPS on the double-click route.

Varg's also right in that there are some common-sense exceptions casting exceptions - if I stood there triple-clicking SW:P then all I'd do is be refreshing SW:P and losing mana.

[Jesung]

Some caster abilities will actually cut into the previous one if spammed. IE channeled spells, or refreshing a DoT/HoT early, wasting mana etc

Being a class based purely off of DoT's this is true, but obviously you dont spam every ability that you need to use next. For example i will spam my Shadow bolt key over and over because that means i get it off at the earliest possible moment, but for example corruption i only press it when needed when there is about 1 second left until it drops off. It's just a case of knowing which spells to spam and which to not.

[Azunai]

For example i will spam my Shadow bolt key over and over because that means i get it off at the earliest possible moment, but for example corruption i only press it when needed when there is about 1 second left until it drops off. It's just a case of knowing which spells to spam and which to not.

Well yea that's pretty much what I meant. I guess what I usually do once I have about ~25% of GCD left is start hammering the skill I want to use. Then once I see the next GCD kick in, I stop doing so and find the next skill, and so on. If that's what you mean by double (or however many) clicking then I guess we're on the same track :-)

I guess a caster with mainly timed casts (mage's Frostbolt f ex) 's equivalent of this would be precasting, i.e. knowing that special spot where you can 'clip off' your last cast (but it still goes off) and start casting the next thing.

[Jesung]

Well yea that's pretty much what I meant. I guess what I usually do once I have about ~25% of GCD left is start hammering the skill I want to use. Then once I see the next GCD kick in, I stop doing so and find the next skill, and so on. If that's what you mean by double (or however many) clicking then I guess we're on the same track :-)

I guess a caster with mainly timed casts (mage's Frostbolt f ex) 's equivalent of this would be precasting, i.e. knowing that special spot where you can 'clip off' your last cast (but it still goes off) and start casting the next thing.

I suppose it is different for me to you though (never played a warrior) as i load up my target with dots then spam my shadowbolt key for a good 7 secs until haunt is off CD

[Vargen]

Being a class based purely off of DoT's this is true, but obviously you dont spam every ability that you need to use next. For example i will spam my Shadow bolt key over and over because that means i get it off at the earliest possible moment, but for example corruption i only press it when needed when there is about 1 second left until it drops off. It's just a case of knowing which spells to spam and which to not.

Well, that's pretty much what I ment. GCD makes it pretty much a non issue also, but some classes don't want to cut ticks etc. I think for WoW Feral and DK are the only two melee that need to worry about this to some extent. Then again, I've only played DK, Druid, Hunter, Priest, Shaman, Warrior and Warlock in endgame encounters. Ok, that list was a lot shorter in my mind before I typed it out... :blink:

Basically spamming is the way to go, as long as you don't cut ticks or channeled spells/abilities. Currently the trend in most MMOs seem to be leaning towards priority lists where you use X ability when Y proc is up etc, making this less of an issue then it was back in the "Press 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 - repeat" days.

[Sharpfang]

RGW members, i want ure POV, notice its only RGT thats replied here

/sharp

[Vargen]

RGW members, i want ure POV, notice its only RGT thats replied here

/sharp

I am neither  Long live SOG RG1 :norty:

[hubbah]

I am going to sound like a complete noob here, but SOG RG1?

[Arcticfire]

Silver Oak Guardians RG1