Rushing

[uni]

Either enforce the rule or remove it. Every single day I get shot in the back by someone rushing through our spawn and behind us when we still have the bomb and all that is done is the message is spammed in chat. This is pointless, so either remove this rule or start slaying people for it. It doesn't matter if it is the round after, if they ruin the round for opposing team then they should sit out the next. If that isn't done then simply forget the rule and allow it and we can adapt to it and start expecting it to happen.

[Jewelz^]

If there's a vote on this, i'd say remove it. Sure it's not realistic. But it is a viable competitive tactic (as annoying as it is).

[Gone_Away]

If there's a vote on this, i'd say remove it. Sure it's not realistic. But it is a viable competitive tactic (as annoying as it is).

Is dMw a pubby server now?

[Dexterous]

I think I'd probably vote for it to be removed, it's certainly a competitive tactic and part of the competitive nature of the dMw server in my opinion. If we're going for the competitive styled game play then it should be allowed, it is partly the fault of the team who are getting rushed because they should be covering all angles. On the other hand though if the community as a whole thinks that rushing should not be allowed we should probably draw up some guidelines for the main maps we play to get an idea of when and where we would consider something rushing or would consider it as a viable tactic. Therefore everyone gets a clear cut understanding of what is and isn't allowed and then we could enforce it more thoroughly.

Note: Perhaps we might not even need to remove the rule, we could always just say that if someone rushes more than a certain amount of times in their half they get a penalty for it. That way it is still a viable option but would only be used occasionally as a last ditch effort.

[uni]

I would rather it was just removed instead of having any sort of loosely based rule in action. It happens in comp matches and people wouldn't do it every time because there is the chance they just get killed early on as much as the team they are rushing. My biggest gripe with it is that since I have been playing on dMw there has been this rule in place and I have just got use to it not happening on there. It's a bad habit but something that I take for granted as being a rule. If it wasn't there I would at least know this is the case and I would have less of a problem with it happening. But whilst it is still supposedly a thing, being shot in the back is incredibly infuriating.

[DuVeL]

Is dMw a pubby server now?

Doesn't seem so.

Blunt made this post a bit back:
http://www.deadmen.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?38680-dMw-CS-GO-Server-rules-in-brief

3rd rule in there: Don't rush if you're supposed to be defending.

There are some more guidelines in the TCS-section.
The attacking side shouldn't be covering all angles in spawn because: Aren't they the guys attacking?

Unless the rules have changed quit a bit on the servers.

[Dexterous]

The attacking side shouldn't be covering all angles in spawn because: Aren't they the guys attacking?
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The question is if we want dMw to be a competitive styled server or a sort of hybrid between traditional dMw and competitive play. If you are playing it competitively people will sometimes rush, it's just part of the game. If you want to have a hybrid then we definitely need much more clear rules on where and where you cannot go so that we can easily say "That's too far, get back or you're gonna be slain the next round"

[Gone_Away]

Doesn't seem so.

Blunt made this post a bit back:
http://www.deadmen.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?38680-dMw-CS-GO-Server-rules-in-brief

3rd rule in there: Don't rush if you're supposed to be defending.

There are some more guidelines in the TCS-section.
The attacking side shouldn't be covering all angles in spawn because: Aren't they the guys attacking?

Unless the rules have changed quit a bit on the servers.

Sadly that's over two years ago that post was made. It would appear that the game-style has changed. I agree with the all or nothing approach. I would leave it up to the GL and not put it to a vote...

[Gunda]

I am dead set against out and out rushing, but feel fixed limits just do not work.  What should be allowed is if a CT has spotted the bomb (not just planted or dropped) at A then the CT's at B are then allowed to rush to the rear of the T's, or even if someone at mid on cache calls they have heard a lot of T's rushing A or B then that should allow the rear push from the opposite site.

We should imo increase the freeze time at the start by another couple of seconds to enable more talk about tactics like 2 go A, 3 go b etc...

[SLoWHaND]

I am dead set against out and out rushing, but feel fixed limits just do not work.  What should be allowed is if a CT has spotted the bomb (not just planted or dropped) at A then the CT's at B are then allowed to rush to the rear of the T's, or even if someone at mid on cache calls they have heard a lot of T's rushing A or B then that should allow the rear push from the opposite site.

We should imo increase the freeze time at the start by another couple of seconds to enable more talk about tactics like 2 go A, 3 go b etc...

I like this...............but getting ppl to abide by it is the problem

[Bellowhead]

We should imo increase the freeze time at the start by another couple of seconds

This this this. Eco rounds simply don't exist on dMw because there isn't enough time to communicate with team. I guess this comes back to the questions below on whether it's a competitive server or not but I think it definitely is leaning towards a competitive style. Especially now that you can't communicate with the other side.

Just my humble opinion of course, I int one of the gang!

[Tutonic]

It's worth remembering that we have to cater to all abilities here. There are many on our servers who haven't had the exposure to competitive CS that others have, and for those more 'casual' players getting slotted in the back by someone who's supposed to be defending is a frustrating experience.

I don't play enough on our servers to offer an opinion on what rules should be enforced or not, but ensuring that everyone has a good time should be our main priority.

[Dexterous]

It's not the freeze time, the fact is that people tend to play their own strategy with only a loose idea of what sort of area in the map they should be going to. People aren't playing it in a competitive style (even if the game is styled like a competitive match) so the freeze time wouldn't make much difference in my opinion.

[Gunda]

could we trial additional freeze time for a few weeks, and see what kind of feedback we get?

[Dexterous]

That's up to the great master Blunt.