Scorched Earth - Migration of

Started by Penfold, November 04, 2016, 10:58:40 AM

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Penfold

Oldie has tried for hours to get The Center and Scorched Earth linked but it appears borked from the Developers' side.

If we get no joy from our online enquiries in the next few days I propose thus:

1. TAMES: Given you should be able to migrate dinosaurs back and forth between worlds, I propose to allow you to recreate some dinos you have on The Center to Scorched Earth. For example if you want your argie on scorched earth I will spawn one of the same level on SE for you with a saddle. I wondered whether that meant they need to be killed on The Center but given they should be able to migrate back I think we'll allow them to run in parallel.

2. MATERIALS: You should also be able to transfer items across worlds using the Obelisks. This also doesn't currently work. So, if you bring the materials you'd like transferred we'll 'dump' them on TheCenter letting them decompose and then give you the same materials in Scorched Earth. In essence this has the same effect as transferring them. If there's specific things you have built and want to move over then the same principle applies (structures, smithies, fabricators etc). So long as they're left to perish on The Center we'll recreate them for you on SE. The same applies going back the other way (E.G. if you have a burning desire to bring back sand or clay etc).

3. CHARACTER: I'm slightly less sure on this one but am debating whether we should allow your character on SE to be levelled up to the same level as on The Center. Again, you should be able to migrate your character from one to the other and back again so it makes sense to a degree.

Anyway. This is food for thought so if you have any views or input on this please shout.

PS. It's a major hassle spawning stuff so ideally we'll keep stuff to a minimum where possible. I.e. If you want a generator and electrics then please build them first on The Center rather than turn up with 1000's of materials.

sulky_uk

just thinking why dont we have a few cabinets filled with materials to help ppl get started at a group building


Also i agree that having you fav argie/trouser snake there is a good idea as the game is harsh.

 As for charecter development, why not let people spawn with charecters 1/2 the level of their centre, as i think it would be too easy to let someone walze in at level 66..but a lot harder for them at 33


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DuVeL

I'm already rank 30 upon the SE-server. To rank 30 it doesn't take long, 60 is manageable but higher is a grind.

I'm up for anything so I'll see what you guys come up with.
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albert

Hi Pen,

I think it's probably going too far to start using admin commands to get us going on Scortched Earth. Reason see 4) below.

The reason I think this is:

1) The cluster setup is still being developed so why not just wait?
2) The Center is still largely unexplored for many and is being enhanced all the time.
3) Very few people have spent any time of Scorched Earth so is it really such a rush?
4) As Duvel says, it's do-able, level 30 with patience and skill. Scorched Earth is supposed to be more challenging, difficult, dangerous, all these things that the Center isn't once you have a level 250 Pter and Argie.
5) We are a team community, I'm sure we can work it out how to get things settled in Scorched Earth together rather than as single players.

I vote to leave it as is and once the code is healthy then we can teleport fine. Don't waste any more of Oldie's free time on it for now nor your time doing admin chores which may be as annoying to reverse in the medium term.
Cheers, Bert

Chaosphere

Although I had specific thoughts on the points mentioned that I will lay out in detail later, in short I agree with albert.

This is more as, personally, I would like to start scorched earth 'from scratch' to make it the hardest experience of the dlc we can have. That is most of the fun!

I do have thoughts on taking things BLACK from scorched to the centre... but no time to discuss right now!

I'll be back ;)
All our Gods have abandoned us.

SithAfrikaan

Quote from: Chaosphere;419213This is more as, personally, I would like to start scorched earth 'from scratch' to make it the hardest experience of the dlc we can have. That is most of the fun!

I'm on this wave length too, and from what I've accomplished on Official servers with SE, by lvl 25 and fortitude around 22 I simply wasn't bothered by a lot of the initial survival stuff, except for intense heatwaves, so for me personally lvl 30 starts is just easy mode, the only thing thats annoying is having to get the engrams unlocked, I'd rather suggest spawning a bookcase of all blueprints up to lvl 30 rather than start our characters at level 30...

Thoughts?
Still can't wait to conquer the desert with you bros...
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Chaosphere

Now I've a bit more time I will add some more specific stuff if I may :D

The mounts and materials I am not sure on, due to what albert said and I echoed earlier - it takes the challenge away. I mean, if we bring a high level bird, a few AC units and a generator - doesn't that get rid of a lot of the harshness of he SE environment?

Characters is trickier to deal with, as really I'd like my time spent on SE to count towards my character on the Centre, so that I can work my way towards Scuba gear and so on. I would rather have it work this way, where we later add EXP from SE onto our Centre characters, and not the other way around. This would keep SE as tough as nails, but let us benefit in the 'long run' (with the centre being our 'home' in ark).

The practicalities of doing this would require some thought. I would suggest something like, when you reach a certain level milestone, we add the amount of XP required to reach it to your character on the Centre (HOW this is done I think requires some further discussion between admins and those that keep the server lights on!). For example, when you hit level 30, if you want we can add the exp it took you to reach level 30 (from scratch on SE) to your character on the centre. Same thing with 45, 60, and so on. If you added at lvl 30, and then hit 60 and wanted to do so again, that would be OK but then it would of course only be the exp from 30-60, not from 0-60. We would just need to keep a list of who has added what exp, to keep things fair and ordered.

Finally, although I said I don't like the idea of moving stuff FROM the centre TO SE, I have no problems with the other way around. If someone puts the time in to build something exotic, or tame a cool SE-only dino, then by all means they should be able to transfer that over to the centre at their choice - but when done so, the dino should be killed in SE so there are no duplicates.

What do you guys think?
All our Gods have abandoned us.

Whitey

We shouldn't be using admin cheat codes to give stuff out, I understand the reasoning behind it but don't agree with it.

SithAfrikaan

Ok bros, I've attached my house to Pen/Duvel main so that we're all building aligned with eachother and can snap together etc... I hope you like.
Duvel I've replaced FoxyRed since I saw a red one and they aren't that common, I still owe you a MALE one though :(
I've started a stone foundation wall down the hill opposite side to the huge gate, we were getting thorny's and Terror birds from that direction really causing me grief today!

I've trapped a Doedic in the pen ready to be tamed, and I've tamed a low level Ankylo

Tried to be super productive, that's the best I could come up with bro's :D
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Penfold

Thanks for your comments all.

Basically, that's fine and happy to adopt your wishes obviously. One thing I did like was Chaos's requests about some XP being transferable back to The Center and the option to migrate some stuff from SE back to The Center which was, after all, one of the reasons a lot of us bought it.