MASSIVE choke issues....

Tutonic · October 29, 2002, 06:00:53 PM

Tracing route to homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 159 ms 158 ms 143 ms 192.168.255.1
2 146 ms 164 ms 167 ms 192.168.255.2
3 152 ms 158 ms 167 ms interconnect6-l0.ilford.fixed.bt.net [194.74.77.
230]
4 150 ms 143 ms 167 ms core1-gig10-1.ilford.ukcore.bt.net [194.74.16.11
0]
5 154 ms 167 ms 167 ms core1-pos8-0.telehouse.ukcore.bt.net [194.74.65.
117]
6 153 ms 143 ms 158 ms linx-gw1.uk.netscalibur.net [195.66.224.47]
7 165 ms 167 ms 164 ms gige2-0.br2.th.rtr.uk.netscalibur.net [195.157.8
.2]
8 161 ms 176 ms 158 ms lon1-gw3.uk.boyannet.co.uk [62.169.128.74]
9 177 ms 179 ms 177 ms lon2a.core.rtr.caladan.net.uk [80.71.0.50]
10 198 ms 179 ms 191 ms man1b.core.rtr.caladan.net.uk [80.71.4.6]
11 186 ms 194 ms 194 ms cwgway1.crosswired.co.uk [80.71.4.10]
12 183 ms 173 ms 182 ms homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]

Trace complete.

Looks ok to me...

So far I've tried three different dial-ups, Vispa, Claranet, and Jolt, all have the same problems

Armitage · October 29, 2002, 06:14:32 PM

i seems to get most delay on the crosswire server. which i guess is homer's ISP's server

Hop----IP Address ---- Node Name ---- ms
0 ---- 192.168.1.51 ---- games.hometest ----
1 ---- 10.13.0.1 ---- - ---- 9
2 ----195.188.52.17 ----- ---- 9
3 ---- 194.117.136.29 ---- har-bas-pos.telewest.net ---- 13
4 ---- 194.117.136.26 ----tele2-har-pos.telewest.net ---- 12
5 ---- 194.117.154.9 ---- ge51-linx-gw1.cableinet.net ---- 16
6 ----195.66.224.47 ---- linx-gw1.uk.netscalibur.net ---- 12
7 ---- 195.157.8.2 ---- gige2-0.br2.th.rtr.uk.netscalibur.net ----11
8 ----62.169.128.74 ---- lon1-gw3.uk.boyannet.co.uk ---- 11
9 ---- 80.71.0.50 ---- lon2a.core.rtr.caladan.net.uk ---- 11
10 ----80.71.4.6 ---- man1b.core.rtr.caladan.net.uk ---- 47
11 80.71.4.10 cwgway1.crosswired.co.uk 87
12 193.110.88.20 homer.deadmen.co.uk 19

Roundtrip time to 193.110.88.20, average = 19ms, min = 19ms, max = 34ms -- 29-Oct-02 17:47:51

albert · October 29, 2002, 06:55:00 PM

OK here's mine. And I must say Stryker, it looks like the problem is between the crosswired router and the server, so a bit of LAN congestion maybe? I take it the server is co-located? Possibly with something that is getting well used?

C:Documents and SettingsAdministrator>tracert homer.deadmen.co.uk

Tracing route to homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms SpeedTouch.lan [10.0.0.138]
2 19 ms 19 ms 19 ms lo1-bba1.th.eclipse.net.uk [212.104.130.141]
3 19 ms 21 ms 20 ms 212.104.128.101
4 22 ms 21 ms 21 ms fe4-core1.th.eclipse.net.uk [212.104.128.225]
5 25 ms 23 ms 20 ms linx1.lon1.as8553.net [195.66.224.126]
6 22 ms 21 ms 21 ms e2-0.lon6.as8553.net [195.10.255.194]
7 90 ms 52 ms 23 ms s6-1.bris1.as8553.net [195.10.255.134]
8 25 ms 25 ms 24 ms fa0-0-2.bris2.as8553.net [195.10.254.82]
9 29 ms 28 ms 29 ms s6-0.man1.as8553.net [195.10.255.14]
10 30 ms 30 ms 30 ms cwgtway2.crosswired.co.uk [195.10.230.11]
11 368 ms 172 ms 179 ms homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]

Trace complete.

Bizarre!

albert · October 29, 2002, 07:06:03 PM

In fact sorry I appologise, its a dedicated server cause the clan just raised funds for it.....
But there is something going on the the crosswired lan casueing serious increases in response times. I was in MH a minute ago and I had 200ms when I usually get 50ms.

JB · October 29, 2002, 07:09:37 PM

Here's mine, but i like to be diffrent so i use my UO trace utility.

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Anonymous · October 29, 2002, 08:24:37 PM

Been trying to get a bit of lag to show so that I can traceroute with lag. I have noticed that sometimes there is a slow response to the forums (is the forum colocated with meathook?). Anyway, when I get the "treacle effect" the traceroute shows:

TraceRoute - Tuesday, October 29, 2002 20:21:45
Generated by CyberKit Version 2.5
Copyright Â© 1996-2000 by Luc Neijens

Address: homer.deadmen.co.uk
Number of Packets: 1
Packet size: 1000
Trace Hop 1 through 30
Timeout: 5
Resolve Addresses: No
Don't Fragment: No

#1 (10.125.64.1): TTL Exceeded, ttl=255, 20 ms
#2 (62.31.64.33): TTL Exceeded, ttl=254, 20 ms
#3 (194.117.136.10): TTL Exceeded, ttl=248, 70 ms
#4 (194.117.136.6): TTL Exceeded, ttl=249, 30 ms
#5 (194.117.154.9): TTL Exceeded, ttl=251, 50 ms
#6 (195.66.224.47): TTL Exceeded, ttl=249, 50 ms
#7 (195.157.8.2): TTL Exceeded, ttl=250, 30 ms
#8 (62.169.128.74): TTL Exceeded, ttl=57, 70 ms
#9 (80.71.0.50): TTL Exceeded, ttl=247, 30 ms
#10 No response (): , ttl=, ms
#11 (80.71.4.10): TTL Exceeded, ttl=245, 91 ms
#12 (193.110.88.20): Echo Reply, ttl=244, 100 ms

Statistics: Out 12, in 11, loss 8%, times (min/avg/max) 20/51/100 ms
... and our culprit is....(roll of drums)...

80.71.4.6 (Hop 10 for me).

HTH

albert · October 29, 2002, 10:13:19 PM

Quote
QuoteThe three 80.x.x.x IPs regularly give high times. They are in the manchester area! (80.71.0.50, 80.71.4.6 and 80.71.4.10) However, high ping times may not point to the culprit as high ping on a lightly loaded segment is not an issue.

Those 80.71.X.X IPs are one of our providers. Soon I hope to move the server's traffic over to a network with less latency. Whats good for websites is not neccesarily good for game servers.... damn em :-)

Over these last few days things have been a little bumpy, however I've been assured things will improve.[/b]

I missed the part.

Doorman · October 30, 2002, 08:24:02 AM

So. I gather from all the foregoing extracts from nightmare maths books, that punching my monitor will have a minimal effect on lag. Am I right?
tongue

DogMeat · October 30, 2002, 08:41:03 AM

QuoteSo. I gather from all the foregoing extracts from nightmare maths books, that punching my monitor will have a minimal effect on lag. Am I right?
tongue

Yes - unless you use a stiking force of no less than 15 ftlbs per cmÂ² in the upper right quadrant, of course...

Doorman · October 30, 2002, 08:52:24 AM

Whoah! Top tip! Thanks I'll try it.

(Thinks: Unless he's trying to use some of his faggoty clown powers on me.)

Stryker · October 30, 2002, 09:06:31 AM

The clan server is hanging off the same Cisco Cat as the routers. The catalyst switch is hardly being touched by crosswired's paultry traffic.... so why the feckin delay I wonder.....

Of course at this time caladan traffic is a bit hit and miss with some packet loss.... they claim to be working on it, also as I said, soon I hope to move black-adder's traffic over to another supplier.

hmmm interesting... any theories albert?

Anonymous · October 30, 2002, 09:09:00 AM

I'm getting some treacle in BYs network too so I've logged a call for that as well. Should be fixed in a year or two :-(

Stryker, do you need more traceroutes or are you sick of 'em? I know everyone else is :-)

Stryker · October 30, 2002, 09:11:53 AM

it would be REALLY handy if you could all get a copy of "ping plotter"... its a SUPERB tool for diag of networks.

http://www.pingplotter.com/downloads/pngplt_2.exe

Then do a trace at say any time of your choice and then during a game if your not playing or if your pc is up to it.

set the ping frequency to 1 ping every 2.5 seconds and then run it for at least 15 mins. Then after that under the file menu you can choose to save the data... then mail it to me or the forum.

stryker@deadmen.co.uk

Stryker · October 30, 2002, 09:12:36 AM

nice screen shot

Anonymous · October 30, 2002, 09:19:52 AM

I notice that Tutonic, Armitage and I reach Homer on one route (80.x.x.x) while Albert and JB reach Homer through another (195.x.x.x).

Albert and JB show high latency at Homer whereas those coming in through 80.x.x.x seem to show high latency before Homer.

I get huge lag spikes as does Tut. What about you other guys?

Weird!!!

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