MASSIVE choke issues....

Started by Tutonic, October 25, 2002, 08:40:06 PM

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Tutonic

I'm getting 100 choke and a 2000 ping during combat on the MeatHook, and I'm pretty sure the problem isn't at my end.

 :x  :x  :x  :x  :x  :x

I've tried 3 different ISP's, and I've nto had any similar problems on other CS servers.

Anyone know whats going on? I seem to be the only person affected :x
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Armitage

It's not you Isp. I'm getting it on BY  :(

TeaLeaf

Well I know it's not the server.......must be summint in da middle...
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OldBloke

Contractors managed to rip out a major duct route in Manchester yesterday. A large number of high bandwidth bearers were cut in the process resulting in major re-routing of traffic.
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sheepy

definatly not the isp tut as i have the same 1
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Tutonic

I'm told all the Manchester stuff was meant to be fixed yesterday, but I'm still getting problems :(
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albert

So lets look at the facts:
1) Sheepy and Tutonic have the same ISP
2) All physical problems concerning Manchester, contractors and the like have been recified
3) Sheepy has not reported having the same problems as Tutonic
4) I get no porblems whatsoever with the server from my ISP using a level of "rate 6000"
5) Although some people have problems when on meat hook, most don't so the server appears to be in fine shape
I can only conclude that Tutonics pc is shagged in some manner  :?
Sorry mate, have you done the dreaded CS reinstall from scratch yet?
Cheers, Bert

Tutonic

We're not using the same ISP... although I have tried several different ones....

And the problem just suddenly started, I didn't change anything, so I'm not sure a re-install will help much :(
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albert

My guess would be network problems then, I don't normally say that too quickly as I work in networking but to give an example... When playing on a couple of US server I frequent, I get a very good response and smooth play, no loss and little choke, using my current config. These servers are powerful specs like Baldric. Occasionally the choke goes up to 100. At the same time their web page takes ages to load up (separate servers obviously) so I would expect that one hop on your route to the server is playing up either taking the re-routed traffic from an unreliable link elsewhere or is running with intermittent errors.
I did quite a bit of config tweaking and think I've got it ok for both UK low ping servers and US 100ms type ping servers so it means if the UK connection deteriorates then my client can handle it as I am setup to compromise between low and higher ping server connections.
Unfortunately, if data is being lost then you get a little lag and if packets are being delayed getting to your from the server you get that horrible 15 second lag and high levels of choke.
Only solution is change your ISP but BT own so much of the backbone in the UK that if it is a BT link that is killing you it possibly won't matter if you change. I'm with eclipse.co.uk and they have a couple of OC3s into the internet from the BT DSL network and this is for Eclipse customers only, no BT traffic uses this bandwidth (I think).
Send over you're config or post it in here and let me have a look at it.
Unfortunately I've gone through all the checks myself once or twice and found not obvious problems with my system but still had poor performance. So in the end a complete reinstall was the last resort and it tends to work quite well.
Sorry for the big post.
Cheers, Bert

Anonymous

I vote for networking too. Can we post traceroutes to homer to see if there are common threads in the routing (there obviously will be towards the end) but it may allow us to isolate the segment that is causing problems.

TraceRoute - Tuesday, October 29, 2002 14:44:22
Generated by CyberKit Version 2.5
Copyright © 1996-2000 by Luc Neijens

Address: homer.deadmen.co.uk
Number of Packets: 1
Packet size: 1000
Trace Hop 1 through 30
Timeout: 5
Resolve Addresses: No
Don't Fragment: No

#1  (10.125.64.1): TTL Exceeded, ttl=255, 50 ms
#2  (62.31.64.33): TTL Exceeded, ttl=254, 20 ms
#3  (194.117.136.10): TTL Exceeded, ttl=248, 30 ms
#4  (194.117.136.6): TTL Exceeded, ttl=249, 20 ms
#5  (194.117.154.9): TTL Exceeded, ttl=251, 41 ms
#6  (195.66.224.47): TTL Exceeded, ttl=249, 20 ms
#7  (195.157.8.2): TTL Exceeded, ttl=250, 30 ms
#8  (62.169.128.74): TTL Exceeded, ttl=248, 30 ms
#9  (80.71.0.50): TTL Exceeded, ttl=247, 60 ms
#10  (80.71.4.6): TTL Exceeded, ttl=246, 110 ms
#11  (80.71.4.10): TTL Exceeded, ttl=245, 70 ms
#12  (193.110.88.20): Echo Reply, ttl=244, 50 ms

Statistics: Out 12, in 12, loss 0%, times (min/avg/max) 20/44/110 ms


The three 80.x.x.x IPs regularly give high times. They are in the manchester area! (80.71.0.50, 80.71.4.6 and 80.71.4.10) However, high ping times may not point to the culprit as high ping on a lightly loaded segment is not an issue. Can we have a few more traceroutes please?

Doorman

What the HELL was that about?  :(
Looks like a fun thing to do but how do you do it?  :?










     

Anonymous

You can run a trace to a remote server from within a dos window or (as I did) use a bespoke program called Cyberkit (which is free). There are also many other programs that can do this. What it shows is a route from your PC to the destination and indicates a speed of response of each node (router) it passes through. In the above example hop #10 to 80.71.4.6 shows a response time much higher than you would expect which might (and i stress might) indicate a slow node.

From DOS the command you could use is "tracert homer.deadmen.co.uk" and you can then copy the contents of the output to the clipboard. In short, it is part of a standard diagnostic when you begin to trouble shoot a network problem - it doesn't give all the answers but it is a start :-)

Stryker

QuoteThe three 80.x.x.x IPs regularly give high times. They are in the manchester area! (80.71.0.50, 80.71.4.6 and 80.71.4.10) However, high ping times may not point to the culprit as high ping on a lightly loaded segment is not an issue.

Those 80.71.X.X IPs are one of our providers.  Soon I hope to move the server's traffic over to a network with less latency.  Whats good for websites is not neccesarily good for game servers.... damn em :-)

Over these last few days things have been a little bumpy, however I've been assured things will improve.
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Anonymous