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Started by JonnyAppleSeed, August 02, 2004, 09:11:22 PM

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JonnyAppleSeed

We seem to have been Black Flagged on Ed from the scum of the earth that are called WWS

Yes we got the spikes ....but we did everything to accommodate them on the server ....giving them a round / pausing on request / apologising for the lag and not rising to the hurl of abuse that came our way

Not an easy mach for sadako to admin but it was all covered and handled with the respect that we expect from dMw

Agreed make a comment the servers was poor but black flag come on get a life
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TeaLeaf

I suggest that Sadako PM's the CLs and discusses the options they have open to them.  After all, we may have found them a real whining bunch of gits and might need to make appropriate notes on their comments page.  Seriously, whilst I don't expect anyone to go threaten a black flag. it is worth askign them why we got a 3/10 black flag when they could have given us a decent rating as a clan and then added comments about the laggy server.

TL.
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Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships. (Michael Jordan)

Dr Sadako

QuoteHello,

I am very surprised that we got a black flag from you. The 3/10 rating is something entirely up to you and I will not comment about it.

We paused the game per your request. We gave you the last round in the first half. You agreed to play the second half on our server. We all experienced the bad connection and we were all affected by it. We are looking into the reason for this lag, trust me we don't like this lag either.

A black flag is something that shouldn't be missused imho. I would understand if you gave us a bad flag for being rude and disrespectful but we weren't as it is not the dMw way. We got a 10/10 rating because we have a very good reputation in ED due to our fair play and non abusive nature. We are the second clan to join this league of all clans in the CS ED ladders and been around for a long time. We have had a 9/10 and 10/10 ranking for more than 2 years with over 300 played matches! You don't get that praise without a reason.

I want you to reconsider your black flag. I consider that you give a black flag to a clan you want to avoid at all costs e.g. they cheat or are very unfriendly. We were doing neither. I do not intend to give you a black flag even though we got plenty of abuse over say (got plenty of screenshots). dMw plays CS and CZ to have fun.We don't black flag just because you did. It is not our nature.

Best Regards
Sadako
-=[dMw]=-Dr "Doc" Sadako

"Gravitation is not responsible for people falling in love." Albert Einstein

TeaLeaf

A nice message, it deserves a response and I hope they bother to do so.
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Wisdom doesn\'t necessarily come with age. Sometimes age just shows up all by itself.  (Tom Wilson)
Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships. (Michael Jordan)

JonnyAppleSeed

Nice words Sadako ...I hope they remove it as it was NOT needed

My urge to start a flame war has be put out by your melow wisdom  :rolleyes:
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Dr Sadako

I realised after sending that message the guy who black flagged us isn't CL or Deputy. He is a grunt and one of their later additions I figure as he is way down in their members list.

I then sent an e-mail to the CLs

QuoteDate: Mon, 02 Aug 2004 23:15:48 +0200
To: philhaynes113@msn.com, tcsfearless@hotmail.com
From: Sadako home.se>
Subject: Black Flag in ED

Hello,

I am very surprised that we got a black flag from one of your members (WWS|Ripper). The 3/10 rating is something entirely up to you/him and I will not comment about it.

We paused the game per your request when a player dropped. We gave you the last round in the first half due to lag. You agreed to play the second half on our server. We all experienced the bad connection and we were all affected by it. We are looking into the reason for this lag, trust me we don't like this lag either.

A black flag is something that shouldn't be missused imho. I would understand if you gave us a bad flag for being rude and disrespectful but we weren't as it is not the dMw way. We got a 10/10 rating because we have a very good reputation in ED due to our fair play and non abusive nature. We are the second clan to join this league of all clans in the CS ED ladders and been around for a long time. We have had a 9/10 and 10/10 ranking for more than 2 years with over 300 played matches! You don't get that praise without a reason.

I hope you to reconsider your black flag. I consider that you give a black flag to a clan you want to avoid at all costs e.g. they cheat or are very unfriendly. We were doing neither. I do not intend to give you a black flag even though we got plenty of abuse over say (I got plenty of screenshots). dMw plays CS and CZ to have fun. We don't black flag just because you did. It is not our nature. We had a bad server tonight and for that I am sorry. I do not know why but I intend to find out.

Best Regards
Sadako

Dead Men Walking
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You should have recieved it through the admins at deadmen.co.uk adress as I sent it there as well. I haven't recieved it though.  <_<

The black flag is still on ED. No response to either my PM or this e-mail. Tbc.
-=[dMw]=-Dr "Doc" Sadako

"Gravitation is not responsible for people falling in love." Albert Einstein

Dr Sadako

Quote From |WWS| Ripper, on Aug 3rd 2004 @ 09:25
 
Ok, sorry about the bad post part of it was that the team wanted someone to complain and party rage. i have also been given a bollocking by my cl for doing so, it wont happen again but i am not saying you dont nessacerally deserve a black flag, i still think the server and match was quite appaling, but now i have thought about it, it is probally more of a 5/10
 

Black flag removed.
-=[dMw]=-Dr "Doc" Sadako

"Gravitation is not responsible for people falling in love." Albert Einstein

JonnyAppleSeed

Quotei still think the server and match was quite appaling, but now i have thought about it, it is probally more of a 5/10

Nothing wrong with the match just a bunch of bad loosers  :narnar:

Nice one Matts :D
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TeaLeaf

TL.
Wisdom doesn\'t necessarily come with age. Sometimes age just shows up all by itself.  (Tom Wilson)
Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships. (Michael Jordan)

Dr Sadako

QuoteHi mate,

I didnt play in the war last night but I checked ED this morning before i saw this e-mail.

Ripper is the newest member of our team and is obviously not sure about a few things. When i read his report I was shocked, just because a server lags doesnt mean it deserves a Black Flag, i have sent him a message saying this and told him never to post any messages on a clan again.

I appologise for this and it will be taken care of, one thing that should of been done is for the match to be played on our server or re-arranged for another time but as the score has been accepted there is nothing that can be done now.

Once again i appologise for this and will have a word with all |WWS| members about the clan comments.

|WWS| Exposed
(Clan Leader)

Got this late(?) e-mail today.
-=[dMw]=-Dr "Doc" Sadako

"Gravitation is not responsible for people falling in love." Albert Einstein

OldBloke

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