Current lag, choke and loss issues

albert · December 12, 2002, 08:18:52 PM

Hi All,
I've been suffering choke of 18 and loss of 80 on MH last night and tonight. So here are my trace routes to homer.deadmen.co.uk. The ping shoots through the roof on crosswired:
C:Documents and SettingsAdministrator>tracert homer.deadmen.co.uk

Tracing route to homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms SpeedTouch.lan [10.0.0.138]
2 18 ms 16 ms 15 ms lo1-bba1.th.eclipse.net.uk [212.104.130.141]
3 28 ms 21 ms 16 ms fe6-core2.th.eclipse.net.uk [212.104.128.101]
4 18 ms 16 ms 18 ms fe4-core1.th.eclipse.net.uk [212.104.128.225]
5 18 ms 19 ms 17 ms linx1.lon1.as8553.net [195.66.224.126]
6 19 ms 17 ms 19 ms e2-0.lon6.as8553.net [195.10.255.194]
7 26 ms 21 ms 21 ms s6-1.bris1.as8553.net [195.10.255.134]
8 23 ms 22 ms 21 ms fa0-0-2.bris2.as8553.net [195.10.254.82]
9 26 ms 26 ms 25 ms s6-0.man1.as8553.net [195.10.255.14]
10 31 ms 27 ms 29 ms cwgtway2.crosswired.co.uk [195.10.230.11]
11 215 ms 181 ms 143 ms homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]

Trace complete.

C:Documents and SettingsAdministrator>tracert homer.deadmen.co.uk

Tracing route to homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms SpeedTouch.lan [10.0.0.138]
2 18 ms 17 ms 16 ms lo1-bba1.th.eclipse.net.uk [212.104.130.141]
3 18 ms 18 ms 18 ms fe6-core2.th.eclipse.net.uk [212.104.128.101]
4 19 ms 17 ms 19 ms fe4-core1.th.eclipse.net.uk [212.104.128.225]
5 18 ms 18 ms 19 ms linx1.lon1.as8553.net [195.66.224.126]
6 21 ms 18 ms 18 ms e2-0.lon6.as8553.net [195.10.255.194]
7 22 ms 21 ms 21 ms s6-1.bris1.as8553.net [195.10.255.134]
8 139 ms 226 ms 211 ms fa0-0-2.bris2.as8553.net [195.10.254.82]
9 26 ms 26 ms 32 ms s6-0.man1.as8553.net [195.10.255.14]
10 29 ms 28 ms 28 ms cwgtway2.crosswired.co.uk [195.10.230.11]
11 117 ms 189 ms 241 ms homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]

Trace complete.

Stryker over to you please

albert · December 12, 2002, 08:24:53 PM

Weird, I did a reboot and also rebooted my router and:
C:Documents and SettingsAdministrator>tracert homer.deadmen.co.uk

Tracing route to homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms SpeedTouch.lan [10.0.0.138]
2 17 ms 17 ms 16 ms lo1-bba1.th.eclipse.net.uk [212.104.130.141]
3 18 ms 19 ms 17 ms fe6-core2.th.eclipse.net.uk [212.104.128.101]
4 18 ms 17 ms 16 ms fe4-core1.th.eclipse.net.uk [212.104.128.225]
5 18 ms 18 ms 17 ms linx1.lon1.as8553.net [195.66.224.126]
6 18 ms 19 ms 19 ms e2-0.lon6.as8553.net [195.10.255.194]
7 22 ms 22 ms 22 ms s6-1.bris1.as8553.net [195.10.255.134]
8 26 ms 20 ms 22 ms fa0-0-2.bris2.as8553.net [195.10.254.82]
9 27 ms 28 ms 26 ms s6-0.man1.as8553.net [195.10.255.14]
10 27 ms 27 ms 27 ms cwgtway2.crosswired.co.uk [195.10.230.11]
11 27 ms 31 ms 28 ms homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]

Trace complete.

C:Documents and SettingsAdministrator>tracert homer.deadmen.co.uk

Tracing route to homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms SpeedTouch.lan [10.0.0.138]
2 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms lo1-bba1.th.eclipse.net.uk [212.104.130.141]
3 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms fe6-core2.th.eclipse.net.uk [212.104.128.101]
4 18 ms 17 ms 16 ms fe4-core1.th.eclipse.net.uk [212.104.128.225]
5 22 ms 18 ms 19 ms linx1.lon1.as8553.net [195.66.224.126]
6 29 ms 18 ms 19 ms e2-0.lon6.as8553.net [195.10.255.194]
7 20 ms 21 ms 22 ms s6-1.bris1.as8553.net [195.10.255.134]
8 21 ms 23 ms 21 ms fa0-0-2.bris2.as8553.net [195.10.254.82]
9 203 ms 49 ms 39 ms s6-0.man1.as8553.net [195.10.255.14]
10 28 ms 26 ms 28 ms cwgtway2.crosswired.co.uk [195.10.230.11]
11 27 ms 28 ms 26 ms homer.deadmen.co.uk [193.110.88.20]

Trace complete.

C:Documents and SettingsAdministrator>

Something obviously cleared between 8:20pm and 8:25pm.

Gandalf · December 12, 2002, 10:24:48 PM

no probs this end. Has been fine all evening.

Amazing what a re-boot can do

Stryker · December 13, 2002, 09:15:20 AM

FYI peeps, that "as8553.net" route is that of a provider that feeds us a top notch feed of bandwidth.

At the moment we are capped with that provider, however in JAN it will be openened up to wire speed!

Our other (once-was) primary bandwidth provider has gone to dogs somewhat just latley forcing me to prematurley route traffic with the as8553.net provider.... just this morning I had to route the remainder of Crosswired Ltd's traffic via as8553.net as t'other provider has had pings of 500-700ms over the past few days... (thats a ping of 500 in CS).

This means it *may* be a little bumpy in the lead up till Jan, however I figured it was better to keep the paying customers happy :-)

OldBloke · December 13, 2002, 10:02:49 AM

Stryker - you do what you gotta do.

I'm sure I speak for all when I say that we're extremely grateful for the service and support that Crosswired provides for our little community.

albert · December 13, 2002, 10:48:46 AM

QuoteStryker - you do what you gotta do.

I'm sure I speak for all when I say that we're extremely grateful for the service and support that Crosswired provides for our little community.

I agree too, thanks a lot Stryker, crosswired is king!

This little slowdown has only happened to me twice since I have played on MH. A far better performance than any other CS server I have played on, so round of applause to you mate.

It also played the old reboot trick on me, after rebooting everything was fine all night, but I got these traces earlier so there had to have been congestion (other than my nose) but for the problem record, I'll log it as a windows issue :lol: .

Stryker · December 13, 2002, 11:13:26 AM

awww thanks guys.

Benny · December 13, 2002, 11:13:53 AM

Took me 2 reboots and a cable modem reset...'kin broadband is a pain in the ass, eh Tealeaf :wink:

Doorman · December 13, 2002, 11:18:12 AM

Yeah, broadband, who bloody needs it?

albert · December 13, 2002, 11:40:49 AM

QuoteYeah, broadband, who bloody needs it?

He who is about to spash out on a new router :lol:

TeaLeaf · December 13, 2002, 05:27:06 PM

QuoteTook me 2 reboots and a cable modem reset...'kin broadband is a pain in the ass, eh Tealeaf :wink:

I'll let you know when I 'get' the PITA :x Bloody no good dog gawn BT, mutter, mutter, mutter... :evil:

TL.

Still stuck on ISDN and still pinging at over 100ms

Dr Sadako · December 13, 2002, 05:32:29 PM

Ping doesn't matter ... :lol:

Sorry peeps, I couldn't resist it. :wink:

JB · December 13, 2002, 05:40:20 PM

I totally agree Sadako my old chum buddy, look at Tutonic, he's able to keep up with the best low pingers on meathook, and same with me too when i was 56k and playing on meathook.

Dr Sadako · December 13, 2002, 05:44:39 PM

JB is right. I kicked major ass when playing UT (3 years ago) on 56k modem.

Ping isn't the issue. Choke and packet loss are the real bandits as far as I understand it. I leave this to the network dudes to clear up.

I saw a bumper sticker with the text "Ping doesn't matter!" not long ago. I hate that I didn't have my camera that time.

albert · December 13, 2002, 05:47:32 PM

Yep ping doesn't matter agreed. You'll notice that on NS next week

. Loss and inconsistant delay are the killers. Modem users can optimise their config to fully match their connection speed and be as near as damned as real time as broadband.