GhostMjr - NO - 28/12/04

[TeaLeaf]

Originally posted by GhostMjr on 23rd December
Hi guys,
 
I wish you all the best for xmas and hope to c u on the servers for the xmas event!
I feel that since joining cs i have learnt alot of new tehniques but many have been brought to my attention by dmw members that are alot more experienced than me but take the time to show me their skills! My voicecoms were very basic and were not up to scratch and so was my ability to work as in a team whilst underfire. I feel now however that the time is right to once again put my name forward to become a charlie member of the clan. In my opinion i am commited to the clan and a regular on both the servers and try to browse through the forums regularly in between my studies. Voicecoms are hard in the gaming world but i think mine have got better and i am confident to call out where the bomb and hostages r and to aid any1 in my team! I am always open for matches if ever neede and if considered would be happy to attend practices etc..
I hope i am successful with my application third time lucky as the saying goes.
 
Thanks and i hope you have a nice christmas and a happy new year
 
Scott Fergusson
 
(aka GhostMjr

This PM was received from GhostMjr on 23rd December, my apologies for not posting this sooner - I have been kinda busy  

I note that this is his third application for Charlie Company and would refer everyone to the other threads here and here.

To my mind he has made significant progress since these previous applications and has improved on almost all counts.  The question you have to ask yourself is has he improved sufficiently to warrant consideration and if so, is he the right type of person for Charlie Company membership?

TL.

[Dr Sadako]

I must admit I never thought I would write this but I voted Yes. He has become much more team oriented since his last application and he makes an effort to improve.

Yes he is a bit childish and needy at times but I feel that has faded a bit tbh. I think he could be a contribution to our thin charlie squad atm. He is around much more than most of our current charlie members. I think that If we the SLs direct him he will evolve to become a fine charlie member.

[smilodon]

As soon as I read his post I immediatly planned to write something about it being very perverse that someone who is clearly so much more dedicated to match play than me struggles to get admission to Charlie Squad, while I (and one or two others) languish here while only playing a match very occassionally. But Sadako has already said as much, so I'll just agree and say 'yes let him in this time please '

[OldBloke]

I voted 'Yes'.

All the things we asked of him he has delivered on.

My only reservation now is his computer reliability. <_<

Would the 'no' voters please post a reason.

[Squonk]

I voted no
I haven’t seen him around that much to say that he as changed any, in his team play and his immature behaviour.
 
I just don’t think he is the right kind of person for Charlie,  we already have one or two players within Charlie that imo let the good name of dMw down  I don’t wish to have any more. So the less we have like this the better.

After saying that I may well be taking this whole thing to serious .I thought Charlie was about friends/mature people meeting up to play games the way we enjoy playing but if its just about numbers then I got it wrong.
 I really think we should have an invite system to promote people to Charlie.

[TeaLeaf]

I voted No, although I took a while to come to that conclusion - it was not easy.  I also shoudl add that I voted before I added the 'Not yet' option to the poll so I made it a little more difficult on myself than it needed to have been  

As I acknowledged above, GM has improved in all of the areas we have asked him to improve and he should be congratulated for that.  But, I came to the conclusion that at the moment I still do not see him as the type of person whom I would want to see representing dMw on other servers.  I still see him as immature, prone to the occassional rash behaviour (as noted in Rogue's Gallery) and therefore not of the premium quality stuff that we call Charlie. After all, it is only 4 months since my last major correspondence with him, a series of PMs that seemed to demonstrate that he did not understand our (the Admins) point of view at all.  I'm not convinced that he has had sufficient time to grow beyond that juvenile stage yet.

My conclusion may still be tinged by subjectivity rather than objectivity, but it's how I feel right now.  With hindsight I would have voted for 'Not yet' probably, but I voted as I did.

That probably sounds like some lamo BS, but it's the best I can do this morning.......

TL.

[Dr Sadako]

Originally posted by TeaLeaf@Dec 27 2004, 01:00 PM
I still do not see him as the type of person whom I would want to see representing dMw on other servers. TL.

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Then maybe we should kick him out of Bravo instead. He wears our wings atm.  :devil:


I am with Squonk on what he is writing about invite only. I voted yes with regards to the current rules/regulations required to get into Charlie. Imho Ghostmjr has fulfilled those and I think it would be unfair that he should be treated different than others.

Spring cleaning amongst Charlie (tranfer to shadow or Bravo)  wouldn't be a bad idea. At present we have 43 Charlies of which 14 never have played one single match and about 10 have played less than 5 matches. There are 12 members that have more than 100 kills i.e. plays the majority of the matches.

It is from the above I based my Yes.

[JonnyAppleSeed]

Im holding out till after the Tourny ...I having him on the squad will give me a good chance to check him out ...

[Gh0st Face Killah]

I voted not yet, he has as has been mentioned by others improved a hell of a lot but I still don 't see him yet as quite up to the mark as a charlie. However if he keeps doing what he is doing I have no doubt he will be a fine addition to the team.

Oh yes I'm with the others on the invite thing.

[JonnyAppleSeed]

I have to vote yes ...and tbh i dont want to

He was excellent through the tourny ...willing to try stuff and also good shot

The only draw back is he need alot of direction ....but tell him to guard an area and he will cover till the timer runs out  

He still comes out with the odd bit of bollox but if you tell him he shuts up and seems not to take offence  

[Doorman]

I'm an abstension. He doesn't fill me with bon homie. You know how some people you instantly like, some you grow to like and some.....................he's one of the latter I'm afraid

[Anonymous]

No from me after all that bollox with the FTP server. Sorry but he doesn't fill me with confidence as a Charlie

[smilodon]

A member of Charlie Company is *not* just a match-playing Bravo. No way. TeaLeaf and I are happy to apply the 'no problem' rule to Bravo applicants but Charlie membership requires a much stricter set of criteria. This is why there is a mandatory two-month probation period for all new Charlie members to make sure that they are made of the 'right stuff' . During those two month we, as admins, will make sure that we monitor them closely, provide coaching/training/advice where necessary and provide feedback on their performance. Anyone not coming up to scratch will be bounced back to Bravo.

I may be a bit out of line, but I'm worried we all have a somewhat different idea about "what the right stuff" actually is?

I'm worried that we haven't actually got a consensus as to what it is at all, and this shows itself every time G Mjr applies for membership.

To be honest I'm beginning to feel really sorry for the chap and his applications fill me with dread everytime he applies as I know he's likely to be knocked back 'again'.

Can we agree implicitly on what a person needs to be a Charlie and assume that he either has it or doesn't, for good. This way we don't have to subject him to this three monthly ordeal. Personally I would like to say to him 'yes your in' or 'no your not and you never will be'.

Feel free to disagree with me completely though.

[TeaLeaf]

I'm not sure that you *can* set out in stone what you, I or anyone else deems to be suitable for Charlie.  It requires OB and me to set in stone and 100% accurately define what Charlie is - and that is something we cannot due for historical reasons.  But one of the purposes of the group vote is to try to filter out subjective unreasonableness if it surfaces.  I stated my opinion which by definistion will vary from that held by other people.

In any case, I raise your counter argument by one GM post and call.  Let's see the cards

T"FTP"L.

[Dr Sadako]

Todays FTP post tore down all the good things he has done the last three months. Change my vote to a No. I really thought he had changed but I guess not.

Btw have anyone sent a PM to him regarding that post?