Unlocked weapons

[sulky_uk]

Originally posted by BIG-Dewey@Nov 22 2005, 09:13 AM
Next time you go into the game, you'll be taken to the weapons unlock page and you can choose.

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np cheers

[mono_dna]

I'm for unlocks. At least see how it works out. I always thought it was a pity that you need to go to a ranked server to use your new toys  

As for whether or not you need to leave the game when you've gained an unlock: No need. You just go to the BFHQ section of the menu and choose your unlock. Next time you choose your class you can also choose your new weapon. That's how I did it. I even think I was in the middle of a game, but I'm not quite sure...

[suicidal_monkey]

Score: 551 of 800. At your historical rate, you should earn 249 in 56.98 days (or 03:23:20 straight).

heh, 56 days to notch up three and ahalf hours of ranked play... sigh

[delanvital]

Originally posted by Armitage@Nov 22 2005, 12:20 PM
I'm talking about allowing people to use weapons they have unlocked. not hacking the server

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My bad, I thought you meant unlocking all weapons for all regardless of what level ppl have attained. I am okay with this type of unlock

[Penfold]

If it went to a poll I would vote against it... why?

Because, quite simply;

It discriminates against those people who do not want to play outside of DMW. There are several people here who have no desire to play anywhere else than on the DMW Server -therefore they are being penalised for showing dedication and loyalty to DMW.

Why should we penalise those people who only want to play on DMW.

FWIW, I have started to play on unranked servers as I want to get the medic weapon unlocked and try it. (Currenty at 304 points I think).

Delan said:

My bad, I thought you meant unlocking all weapons for all regardless of what level ppl have attained. I am okay with this type of unlock biggrin.gif

That's just plain wrong on every level. There are people who have played many, many hours of BF and acheived a very high standard of play - just not on a ranked server. Therefore, according to you Delan, they shouldn't be given any merit for that.

I say put it to the vote and let the people decide.

PEN

PS. I Want to reiterate that I'm about to unlock my medic weapon and would love to use it - so have no vested interest in not seeing the weapons unlocked as a rule.

[Armitage]

poll started

[delanvital]

Originally posted by ThePENDRAGON@Nov 22 2005, 01:24 PM
Why should we penalise those people who only want to play on DMW.
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I say put it to the vote and let the people decide.
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I take it you mean penalising in the sense, that these weapons provide the ppl who has played at ranked servers with an edge in-game. IMHO they don't. The weapons are not better, only different - apart from the M95 and maybe the MG - and I don't think that weapon alone would have much of a game impact.

Vote is an excellent idea.

[suicidal_monkey]

You can also steal the unlocked weapons by killing people who are using them and then taking their kit. Only lasts as long as you're alive and retain that kit of course, but still quite easy to do. The nulocked weapons make little difference imho, but are nice for a change.

I'd suggest making the unlockable weapons available to anyone - i.e. you can use the unlocked weapons regardless of your bfhq status (I thought this is what you meant at first!?) It lets us all try out the unlockable guns and keeps the playing field level. I'd like to think those that have unlocked them through ranked server time would not begrudge the rest of us this opportunity. If there's some sort of legal issue with EA on this front then I understand not making the unlocks freely available to all and sundry.

[Ranger]

To be honest (having played most of teh unlocks except the Medic one) - I think the unlocks on dMw server is more about variety than trying to give anyone an advantage.

For example, however powerful the G3 is I would always chose the default rifle with the grenade launcher over it.

The only unlock I like is the auto shotguns of the Engineer and the Anti-tank.

The G36 is OK (Special Ops) but othing spectacular.

I think people should get over the idea that unlocking this stuff gives people a huge advantage - we have all been playing BF2 for quite a while now, and our level of expertise has less to do with our weapon than how we use it!

(...I think my girlfriend would agree! LOL - Sorry...)

I have played in ranked servers where other people have had the onlocks and I have chosen the default weapon and I have still come at teh top opf the table at the end.

Remember - what weapon you have has no bearing on what team points you get at all - and as we dMw play to get the team win, having these (alledged) improved weapons is neither here nor there...

A G3 won't make a flag come down any quicker or revive a team mate.

[Dewey]

Originally posted by mono_dna@Nov 22 2005, 11:32 AM
I'm for unlocks. At least see how it works out. I always thought it was a pity that you need to go to a ranked server to use your new toys

As for whether or not you need to leave the game when you've gained an unlock: No need. You just go to the BFHQ section of the menu and choose your unlock. Next time you choose your class you can also choose your new weapon. That's how I did it. I even think I was in the middle of a game, but I'm not quite sure...

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Apologies, its been a few months since I unlocked mine.

[Dewey]

Pen, I kinda understand where your coming from, but I just don't think its an issue really. Rangers comments are true, the fact is that if you read any BF2 forum, the unlocked weapons offer no advantage over the standard weapons except the AT/Engineer and even then the MEC engineer also has the equivelant of the unlock anyway. The unlocks all have disadvantages to their standard counterparts, ie the MG has slower rate of fire and only 100rnds. Sniper rifle has only 5 shots and takes an age to reload. G3 has no GL..and so it goes on.

If I was playing devils advocate, I could argue that I'm being penalised by dMw, as I have put quite a few hours on ranked servers but I don't get to play with the unlocks. I think their are many positive things that dMw players who play on ranked servers bring to the dMw community, I would hazard a guess that the best bf2 players in dMw don't play exclusively on the dMw server. If you  played in isolation on the dMw server you would miss out on new tactics/strategies/tips etc and that might stifle growth.

Just a thought.  

[sulky_uk]

i think that unlocked weapons, although hard earnt give an advantage over ppl who dont play on ranked servers. i have 290 points and that was in the first week that bf 2 came out. I find that ranked servers have a lot more ppl who play for themselves rather than as a team, which is why i spend my bf2 time on the dmw and tg servers.

i have voted int the poll so its up to the masses hopefully sense will prevail

althou if voted yes can i try someones sa80 after they die as ive fired thousands of rounds on a real one and want to see what its like in game :dry:

[Penfold]

Originally posted by sulky_uk@Nov 22 2005, 01:35 PM
althou if voted yes can i try someones sa80 after they die as ive fired thousands of rounds on a real one and want to see what its like in game :dry:

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That was my reasoning too - I'd like to see how it compares to an SA80 in real life....  n

I used to love the days spent on the firing ranges and exercise. Except when one muppet didn't have his BFA on properly  :angry:

PEN

[Dewey]

Pen and Sulky, guys next time we are on the same squad, you can try my SA 80 no bother just give me a shout.

[delanvital]

Originally posted by BIG-Dewey@Nov 22 2005, 04:47 PM
Pen and Sulky, guys next time we are on the same squad, you can try my SA 80 no bother just give me a shout.

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you mean.. a shot