More accurate shooting

[Dewey]

While playing BF2, you often come across the same scenario - you spot an enemy, go prone and open fire, and then its a mixture of skill, reactions, your weapon accuracy, damage and recoil and a bit of luck as to whether you come out on top of the encounter.

Last night while playing on Karkand I began wondering if I could improve my accuracy.

At the moment I use the left mouse button to fire and obviously to aim. The downside of using the mouse for both shooting and movement/sighting is that when you press fire you move the mouse slightly and can move your curser off target, you then have to resight the sight over your target before beginning to fire again - I appreciate this all happens in tenths of seconds.

So would your accuracy and therefore kill rate improve if I switched the firing button to say my Nostromo?

My thinking is this should allow me to keep the sights over the enemy, shoot and then once the recoil of the weapon has gone, be bang on my target again and shoot them, without the need to make minor corrections with the mouse.

I'd be interested to hear other people's thoughts on this, has anyone else tried it?

[delanvital]

Sounds like an idea worth testing. Only catch is, I often move in between the periods of fire. Burst, move, burst move... etc...

[Dewey]

Originally posted by delanvital@Dec 19 2005, 11:09 AM
Sounds like an idea worth testing. Only catch is, I often move in between the periods of fire. Burst, move, burst move... etc...

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Interesting Delanvital, as I mostly use single shot for anything but close up battles ie, if I'm moving around buildings etc I'm set too full or burst. If I can see a down a road ie on some parts of the map on Karkand I use single shot.

Delanvital, bearing in mind how accurate a lot of the dMw guys are, don't you find you get shot while moving? Do you mean you kill people before moving, or shoot at them, move regardless of whether they are shot and shoot at them again etc?

[suicidal_monkey]

assuming the mouse movement (I agree there might be a little) is picked up afer the button press you're probably just adding to the recoil effects the game introduces where after firing a shot your aim may have been shifted slightly by the computer to simulate recoil. I suppose it's all a matter of what you're used to. The only gun I'd be tempted to use a firing key off the mouse would perhaps be the sniper.

Another method would be to click softer

[Dewey]

Originally posted by suicidal_monkey@Dec 19 2005, 11:18 AM
assuming the mouse movement (I agree there might be a little) is picked up afer the button press you're probably just adding to the recoil effects the game introduces where after firing a shot your aim may have been shifted slightly by the computer to simulate recoil. I suppose it's all a matter of what you're used to. The only gun I'd be tempted to use a firing key off the mouse would perhaps be the sniper.

Another method would be to click softer

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I think I need to test it. As you say, at the moment I'm not sure if the curser moving off a target is down to me slightly moving the mouse when tapping the fire button or simulated recoil - it may be a mixture of both, in which case its still worth trying.

The only downside is I can see me getting annoyed initially pressing the wrong button, though obviosly I could still have the mouse as a firing button and just assign another to my Nostromo.

Ok, if I'm a poor shot tonight its because I'm performing this worthy experiment  

[delanvital]

Originally posted by Dewey@Dec 19 2005, 12:13 PM
Interesting Delanvital, as I mostly use single shot for anything but close up battles ie, if I'm moving around buildings etc I'm set too full or burst. If I can see a down a road ie on some parts of the map on Karkand I use single shot.

Delanvital, bearing in mind how accurate a lot of the dMw guys are, don't you find you get shot while moving? Do you mean you kill people before moving, or shoot at them, move regardless of whether they are shot and shoot at them again etc?

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I think I must clarify that. When doing duels (regardless of burst or single-shot) I often fire, then hide/move when enemy then opens fire, then fire again. Maybe not much. But it is sort of a habit. I try to coordinate it. So I am difficult to hit when they fire, and so on. It really doesn't matter if it is single shot or not. Sometimes I make them run out of ammo. But of course, this is only when there is something between me and the enemy I can hide behind.

Nothing is easier to fight, than one who stays in the same spot and shoots. Then I would aim for a crate to hide behind, find a good angle, and move out and attack, sometimes with the grenade launcher - because most people do stay in the same spot, so I visualize the angle in my head, strafe, fire, and move back. Armitage has figured my strafe technique out though. When I fire a grenade he normally runs towards me right after, but  I always quickly switch to rifle with burst and change position afterwards - especially when it is him

Edit: It is also worth running, when being surprised. It is very difficult to hit someone who runs. You then get time, behind a crate or something, to reorientate. Arm has

[CoolHand]

Anyone of you seen the movie "Unforgiven"? It is not the fastest drawer who wins the duel, it is the one who can aim best...

I improved my shooting after starting to follow this procedure:

1. Relax, he is as stressed as you are.
2. Go prone if you have the time.
3. Take aim (use the iron sights).
4. Shoot (I use two or three round bursts).
5. Take aim again.
6. Shoot.

My point is: If you take a careful aim, even if you spend a half-second to do it, the odds are you'll get the other guy. At long range I use one shot at a time, at close range, I use burst.

I used to get killed three times for every kill I made. Now the score is around 1:1. The only thing I did was to use the iron sights (ALWAYS), and give myself a splitsecond of time to put the crosshairs on the opponents chest before I fire.

[Dewey]

Originally posted by CoolHand@Dec 19 2005, 01:39 PM
Anyone of you seen the movie "Unforgiven"? It is not the fastest drawer who wins the duel, it is the one who can aim best...

I improved my shooting after starting to follow this procedure:

1. Relax, he is as stressed as you are.
2. Go prone if you have the time.
3. Take aim (use the iron sights).
4. Shoot (I use two or three round bursts).
5. Take aim again.
6. Shoot.

My point is: If you take a careful aim, even if you spend a half-second to do it, the odds are you'll get the other guy. At long range I use one shot at a time, at close range, I use burst.

I used to get killed three times for every kill I made. Now the score is around 1:1. The only thing I did was to use the iron sights (ALWAYS), and give myself a splitsecond of time to put the crosshairs on the opponents chest before I fire.

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However all things being equal, its worth looking for things that give you a slight advantage.

Unfortunatley the reality is if you play quick players, you'll be dead before you get to 4 on that list.
It gets more difficult as you get older and the reality is our younger players ie teenagers/early 20's are going to be faster than us more mature players (OMG i'm mature - kinda).

*oh dear- can I say the phrase - "the reality is..." any more - what a twit  :blush:

[Hippy]

This whole topic makes me cry inside.

[Dewey]

Originally posted by Hippy@Dec 19 2005, 02:44 PM
This whole topic makes me cry inside.

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Why Hippy?

[Hippy]

How can you consider using anything other than mouse button one to shoot?

Makes me feel dirty just thinking about it

[big-paddy]

Originally posted by Hippy@Dec 19 2005, 03:21 PM
How can you consider using anything other than mouse button one to shoot?

Makes me feel dirty just thinking about it

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Nope, thats just wierd.

Looking forward to hearing the results of your 'Sirty Sanchez' test Dewey.


Hmmm thinks Pot Noodle for tea.

[Dewey]

Originally posted by Hippy@Dec 19 2005, 03:21 PM
How can you consider using anything other than mouse button one to shoot?

Makes me feel dirty just thinking about it

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I know I know, I feel the same way, but we have to push the frontiers of good taste and whats possible.

[Ranger]

Please refer to my theory on drinking and playing BF2!

...I find my accuracy peaks after two pints then degenerates into complete inaccuracy after three or more!



 :beer:

(On a serious note - I really think age and quick reactions has more to do with first shot kills!)

[Hippy]

Aiming for the head plays a big factor...