Last Stand Perk

Doorman · July 28, 2008, 01:46:32 PM

Perhaps it might be an idea to have a list of perks that ARE acceptable. Instead of whinging about what 'isn't fair' or 'realistic' let hear what IS fair/realistic.

To be honest this is all starting to create an undercurrent of dissatisfaction which beginning to be a off putting. :sideways:

Doorman · July 28, 2008, 01:50:56 PM

Quote from: OldBloke;239100...What I don't fully understand is why people chose it? It's only used when you're about to die...

It's a last attempt to extract some price for your death in what was, up to that point, a useless contribution to the team.

Benny · July 28, 2008, 02:20:58 PM

It's annoying to get shot be the last stand junkies, but it's just as annoying to be shot by some twunt after you've sprayed his face in CS.

I don't like it, but am happy with it left in.

Dr Sadako · July 28, 2008, 02:21:51 PM

Quote from: Doorman;239126Perhaps it might be an idea to have a list of perks that ARE acceptable. Instead of whinging about what 'isn't fair' or 'realistic' let hear what IS fair/realistic.

To be honest this is all starting to create an undercurrent of dissatisfaction which beginning to be a off putting. :sideways:

Why not argue your case why this perk should be allowed instead of telling people that their opinion is whinging.

Toxteth · July 28, 2008, 02:56:08 PM

Last stand is unfair?

What I think is unfair is that us late comers to the game are only on level 15 while everyone else is approaching 50 and have all the guns, rockets and grenades under the sun!

Last stand is all I have to try and get kills. Well besides my Primary and secondary weapons, my RPG's my knife my grenade launchers but that's not th point...

But on a more serious note, Last stand is frustrating, but that only because you didn't kill em good enough. I hate it when I get pwned by Bastet dying and me thinking 'job well done, I'll treat myself with a sip of beer' them blam I'm dead and there's some guy in front of me spinning around on his back waving his legs around in the air and shooting a pistol.

Last stand is unrealistic, you should at least have your vision impaired such as the old red haze around the outside and a bit of a shaky hand, but it's no more unrealistic than shooting somebody in the back and them still being able to turn around and shoot you in the face. (I'm referring to if you've shot them but not killed them rather than last stand.)

Armitage · July 28, 2008, 02:58:48 PM

I'm a bit confused with the "fag hunter" label being thrown around.

I use laststand on all most everyone of my custom classes. I have even managed a 3 man kill streak as I was defending a BS, was that frag hunting. Or was I doing the best for my team.

Air strike on spawn as the rounds starts, is Frag hunting. (cough. cough Frenzy) But using an air strike to clear a bombsite of T's, so you can defuse the bomb, Is not.

UAV Jammer used to hide a sniper to pick of players as they spawn is Frag Hunting. But used to hide a way to snip down on a BS, is not

My point being really is that it's not the perk that's bad. It's how they are used.

Toxteth · July 28, 2008, 03:01:34 PM

Quote from: Armitage;239137
Air strike on spawn as the rounds starts, is Frag hunting. (cough. cough Frenzy) But using an air strike to clear a bombsite of T's, so you can defuse the bomb, Is not.

I agree with the spawn one but surely you're trying to stop them from blowing up the bomb spot? Why the jebus would you send an air strike to a place you were trying to stop being blown up :doh:

Armitage · July 28, 2008, 03:05:47 PM

LOL, is see your point. But it works with outside Bombsites.

Doorman · July 28, 2008, 03:09:06 PM

Quote from: Dr Sadako;239133Why not argue your case why this perk should be allowed instead of telling people that their opinion is whinging.

Because it's....ah to hell.

Jamoe · July 28, 2008, 03:18:56 PM

Quote from: Armitage;239137 I have even managed a 3 man kill streak as I was defending a BS, was that frag hunting. Or was I doing the best for my team.

Frag Hunter! :narnar: I think you were the person that introduced me to death by last stand. Perhaps I am bitter.

anyway..

So let me get this straight, you're on your back, almost dead, whooping around like Homer Simpson, you kill 3 people, who are mobile and have "proper" guns.

For me that shows how overpowered the perk is.

edit: Homer Whoop Whoop Spinning thing

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=fbSMxJVqXn4

FrEnZy · July 28, 2008, 03:22:13 PM

Quote from: Armitage;239137Air strike on spawn as the rounds starts, is Frag hunting. (cough. cough Frenzy) ...

Aww come on, I said I was sorry. The UAV was up, I could see you all milling around, I just couldn't help myself.

If anything it was an act of pure evil rather than frag hunting!

Quote from: Armitage;239137My point being really is that it's not the perk that's bad. It's how they are used.

Last stand only has one use, post death revenge.

Now i'm not saying we should ban the perk, just keep its use in check. If everyone on the server starts using it, then its a good indication of it being overpowered.

Armitage · July 28, 2008, 03:23:44 PM

I was in a corridor and they all run through the door in a big pack. They were plain reckless, there CO should give them a good talking too.

I did Kill 4/5 people with one grenade the other day. Over powered or good/bad luck.

Toxteth · July 28, 2008, 03:30:15 PM

Well I believe an M26 hand grenade has a blasting distance of 10m, a killing distance of 5m. In COD I always complain if I die when I'm about 2 m from the grenade "IT WAS F-IN MILES AWAY!!". If anything the grenades are pretty pathetic...

EDIT: Yey, 400 posts!

Armitage · July 28, 2008, 03:44:20 PM

Sorry the only problem I can see is that people get miffed, because they think they have done the work in killing someone. To have him come back from the grave and kick them in the nuts. Even more annoying would be then for someone else kill the guy on the floor. Getting the credit for the kill you died getting.:roflmao:

But sorry people need to check there targets before celebrating another kill. When you kill someone with laststand. you do get a little red cross logo to tell you.

OldBloke · July 28, 2008, 04:20:31 PM

Quote from: Doorman;239127It's a last attempt to extract some price for your death in what was, up to that point, a useless contribution to the team.

Use the other perks and you may find your contribution less than useless.

Quote from: Toxteth;239136... Last stand is all I have to try and get kills. Well besides my Primary and secondary weapons, my RPG's my knife my grenade launchers ...

Now we're getting there.

Quote from: Toxteth;239136... me thinking 'job well done, I'll treat myself with a sip of beer' them blam I'm dead and there's some guy in front of me spinning around on his back waving his legs around in the air and shooting a pistol.

and ...

Quote from: Jamoe;239141... so let me get this straight, you're on your back, almost dead, whooping around like Homer Simpson, you kill 3 people, who are mobile and have "proper" guns.

Can you see the pattern emerging here? If you see an enemy on his back, spinning like a top and holding a pistol ... SHOOT HIM :doh:

Quote from: Armitage;239137I'm a bit confused with the "fag hunter" label being thrown around.

No fag hunting allowed either. :flirty:

Quote from: FrEnZy;239142Last stand only has one use, post death revenge.
Now i'm not saying we should ban the perk, just keep its use in check. If everyone on the server starts using it, then its a good indication of it being overpowered.

I reckon that once people learn to counter the perk it will fall out of use naturally.