Our password protected servers!

Soon Jung · September 16, 2008, 09:16:45 PM

I am sorry, but have I completely misunderstood the point of passwordprotected servers?
Not only did CN give out the password to a guy who didnt even want to register, now Xenon does the same stunt.
He gives the pasword to his friend in CoD4, and then after I said to him that this is a bannable offense, he replied:

16. september 2008
21:43 - Xenon: hi
21:43 - Xenon: am
21:43 - Xenon:

21:43 - Xenon: he'll reg:)
21:45 - -=[dMw]=-SoonJung: I am just giving you a heads up, because its a serious offense to give out passwords no matter how good friends, they have to reg first
21:46 - Xenon: okok
21:46 - Xenon: i know
21:47 - Xenon: he will reg after the game
21:47 - Xenon: i just wanted to show him first your tactical gaming
21:47 - -=[dMw]=-SoonJung: its not the way to do it
21:47 - Xenon: and the second step is his reging
21:47 - -=[dMw]=-SoonJung: its ALWAYS reg first, THEN play
21:48 - -=[dMw]=-SoonJung: if its on our pword
21:48 - -=[dMw]=-SoonJung: server*

Are we to take action against that? I mean, if CN got 24h ban, Xenon and his freind should recieve the same punishment.(EVEN if I think we should give them longer). Right now Xenon's friend has registered, but that is still not the point, they still broke the rule!
If you want my 2 pennies on this, I dont see the point of having a password protected server if people can just give them away freely and not getting repecussions. I am a harsh woman, and I am serious when I say this.
Give them a slap on the wrist, or a good ol' spanking!:angry:

I am very annoyed atm, and I hope these two incidents are isolated and that its not a new "trend" to give out passwords. We do need to change them all the time if that is the case. So what would be the point of having it at all.

(I dont know if you OB has done anything about it since you where present at the time, if so, look away from this post.)

Anonymous · September 16, 2008, 09:22:57 PM

My vote is same as the last guys got. then post a public notice that the next person to do it will get a 7 day ban not a 24 hour!

Whitey · September 16, 2008, 09:42:27 PM

I agree that we should have some consistency. Casual Nutter was given a 24 hour ban from the CS servers and a warning that if it happened again the ban would be permanent.

Is this something that needs to wait until Armitage gets back or can someone issue the warning/ban in his absence?

Dr Sadako · September 16, 2008, 09:48:51 PM

Xenon was bugging me the other night over friends. He wanted the new password but I refused to give it to him. I told him to visit the forum.

Blunt · September 16, 2008, 09:54:28 PM

I think a BIG post to remind all members of their pw obligations is also in order

Doorman · September 16, 2008, 10:00:23 PM

SoonJung, you are a girl after my own heart. Hang, draw and quarter all miscreants. SHOW NO MERCY! :devil::devil::devil:

OldBloke · September 16, 2008, 10:07:24 PM

BlueBall is a CoD4 admin and, in Arm's absense, can make the call.

My advice is to make an example of Xenon and issue a 7 day ban. He's aware of the rules and, hopefully, was aware of the punishment handed down to CN previously. The ban should be made public via a forum post so everyone's aware of how strongly we feel about this.

Snokio · September 16, 2008, 10:15:36 PM

yup, defo make it public, don't recall seeing CN's being public however :g:, so maybe in light of this, 24hr ban on this occasion and a follow up warning explaning that the next person will receive a 7 day ban?

Just my small little humble opinion :2cents:

Soon Jung · September 16, 2008, 10:20:30 PM

I would take OB's advice in consideration. Also, I would think the sooner the better.

Blunt · September 16, 2008, 11:26:40 PM

Quote from: OldBloke;244960BlueBall is a CoD4 admin and, in Arm's absense, can make the call.

My advice is to make an example of Xenon and issue a 7 day ban. He's aware of the rules and, hopefully, was aware of the punishment handed down to CN previously. The ban should be made public via a forum post so everyone's aware of how strongly we feel about this.

I've spoken to Xenon on steam friends (I invited him to cod4 via friends in the 1st place and gave him a bollocking when I found out what he'd done)
In his defense, he apologised immediately and got his m8 to register straightaway.
He told me that he was keen to introduce his m8 the community and didn't think about the rule.
He was not aware of CN's ban or the reasons for it.
He is very keen to make Bravo and now that he knows he's got a ban coming, is now worried that this will affect his standing.
In light of CN's 24hr ban, I think that a week is a tad harsh, but will support any decision made.

Soon Jung · September 16, 2008, 11:41:18 PM

He can be as sorry as he wants, and a firm message in form of a ban (regardless the length) is well deserved. Tbh looking at how he talked to me on steam friends I see no remorse at all. Ofc he is afraid to "loose" status, but he should've thought of that before breaking rules. Give him a ban, and inform him he is more than welcome when the time is over. And also let him know that he wont "loose" status, but he has to pay for his action like any other member of the community.

Blunt · September 17, 2008, 12:02:25 AM

Quote from: Soon Jung;244972He can be as sorry as he wants, and a firm message in form of a ban (regardless the length) is well deserved. Tbh looking at how he talked to me on steam friends I see no remorse at all. Ofc he is afraid to "loose" status, but he should've thought of that before breaking rules. Give him a ban, and inform him he is more than welcome when the time is over. And also let him know that he wont "loose" status, but he has to pay for his action like any other member of the community.

I agree that he should have a ban.
I am not aware of his conversation with you, or the way that he spoke to you. If he was disrespectful or dismissive then he deserves what's coming.
I can only speak of what I know, and he was remorseful when he spoke to me.
My point is, as Whitey said

QuoteI agree that we should have some consistency. Casual Nutter was given a 24 hour ban from the CS servers and a warning that if it happened again the ban would be permanent.

I don't think we should give him a week for the following reason...
A week is an appropriate time for a ban for this reason, but we should make it clear in a BIG STICKY POST in the general forum that from NOW ON we will be banning for a week.
Giving him a week after we've handed out a 24hr ban for CN (who's dad is a Charlie member) is not being consistent and could be construed as favouritism.

Dr Sadako · September 17, 2008, 07:34:54 AM

I think the fair thing is to give him a 24 hour ban on ALL our servers. I don't give a **** if it was the CoD server password that was handed out or the TS password. The passwords are in the private area for a reason. It should hurt to give them out.

I think that the standard punishment should be at least 1 week ban from all servers from now on.

Anonymous · September 17, 2008, 08:08:02 AM

I can see a consensus forming here.

I don't think we publicised the fact that CN was banned for giving out the password (correct me if I'm wrong) so giving out a different length ban would be (IMHO) wrong. Consequently, I feel X should receive a 24 hour ban from the CoD4 server.

I agree that, for the seriousness of the offence, a 24 hour ban is too soft so I'll make a post that future transgressions will lead to an immediate 7 day ban from ALL passworded servers and that the ban will be made public.

I'll also include this in the new member code of conduct that we are working on.

Anonymous · September 17, 2008, 08:51:15 AM

OK. I've just encountered a snag with CoD4; you can't ban someone who isn't on the server :roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:

That is unless anyone knows what the internal structure of the ban.txt file should be and I could add his name/guid manually

For the record I've set temp bans to be 24 hours instead of 1 hour on our server. The way to give a 24 hour ban is:

/rcon tempBanUser [username]

or

/rcon tempBanClient [Client Number]

e.g.

/rcon tempBanUser Xenon

or

/rcon tempBanClient 3 <- from an /rcon status list