RGW Recruitment Needs

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SO after chatting with Neasa she has joined rgw with her lock Yaril,nice to have a proper dot class that brings a few extra bits for the raid. Banes,candy etc. She is geared ok'ish but is running LFR and hcs and i said i would help her to gear up bit quicker so hopefully we are onto a winner.

In regards to tank would be great to get a dk (even though there seems to be a curse with dk's and rgw )

[TeaLeaf]

Having declined the ret pala application, is a melee dps still a recruitment need?  If it is then we might want ot change the wording used to respond to Dizi so that other applicants are not inadvertently put off.

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Well we have 2 melee that are nearly 100% in attendence.Pals isnt quite there due to a dog show and felt she had to leave raid on 2 occasions due to dreaman and derianez.

1 melee with tank OS would be nice but for the time being i think we are ok. Ive spoken with hermi after her performance the other night,she has speced fire and is trying to learn how to play it. So 1 more ranged would be nice but again we have 4 (including neasa) @nearly 100% again hermi had a holiday so dropped abit.

Just really need a healer and a shammy would be lovely.

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So with Lynx having a no show for about 3 weeks now he's bailed again /sigh. Ive tried contacting him on FB but no avail. So we are currently running with 2 MS heals and 1 OS.

Still want DK tank and resto shammy but a disc priest with shadow OS would be great. Disc is op atm and the shadow os if geared enough will be usefull on HC ultra as a soaker.

[TeaLeaf]

Yep I've been shouting for a DK tank and a resto shaman/disc priest for the past week or so.  Hopefully 3/8 HC progress will bring some sniffs.

[TeaLeaf]

Just so you are aware, Tanales spoke to me today and is interested in raiding again on his hunter (the cast comes off his wrist this week so he should be good to go again).    I've updated his guild note accordingly.

Tan was always a tremendously reliable and high performing hunter, he's well worth a thought if a spot opens under say 'performance management'.

[Grimnar]

Plus he has good leading abilities aswell, he has been one of the "raid" leaders in swtor.

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Just spoken with Marduk and he has declined due to his last year of uni etc and cant really offer the commitment needed.

Hal has tried speaking with Pals and again nothing back i believe.

So we have 2 heal spots open would like a pally and monk pref. Yet we have a priest Clare ready and waiting so i think that could be viable....so a pally or a monk....

Dps wise i would like a rogue in. We have warrior and dk with dps OS so a rogue imo would be best if we want to take another melee.

In regards to Tan yes really want him in and he wants to join, so its just down to seeing if sithy pulls his weight.

[Grimnar]

or a melee dps monk

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Have spoken with pals and she still wants to raid and is ready to go from weds.

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clare recruited

[Grimnar]

Tanales is replacing Cynba.

I asked he agreed and is now on trial  

[Mariotet]

We are:

Tanks:
Mario - Warrior
Sharpfang - Warrior
Oddbal - DK

We are pretty good sorted here

Healers:
Pendice - Shaman
Missriggy - Druid
Amberleigh - Priest
Clare - Priest

We are pretty good sorted here but wouldnt mind a monk here if we would lack a healer in the future.

Melee:
Grimnar - Druid
Garyuu - DK

We need new here Grimnar will be on every other week for work and Garyuu hasnt showed up yet and not close to be geared.
Paladin would be prio here or a monk instead of Garyuu.

Ranged:
Switchbak - Priest
Tanales - Hunter
Swedeguy - Gnome mage
Hermioneg - Mage
Yaril - Warlock
Sithunter - Hunter

We are pretty good set here but Sithunter is not doing the DPS thats required yet. Hermioneg is falling after a little aswell. Swedeguys DPS is going up and down and he is looking in to that what it could be.
1 more here would be nice to see a hunter in case of Sithunter doesnt do enough or getting in a warlock or shaman extra to make sure that people keep up the pressure.

[TeaLeaf]

Great to see the forward thinking Mario, bravo & keep it up.  In advance planning is probably what RGT spend most time talking about, so it's great to see the input :thumbsup:    If I can add my 2 cents to this please for you folks to think about?

I thought Sharp's official role was melee dps, or are you settling on a 3 tank rotation?  

That's the first question to decide, is Sharp a tank or is he a melee dps?    In a group with 2 raids per week I would not want to have 3 melee dps, that's too many as two-thirds of your people will always miss half their possible raid time.  It's better to pad dps numbers with ranged who can then either stand in melee if required.  

The same argument also applies to tanks, with a proviso: that tank attendance is 100% (or as near to it as does not matter).   RGT run with 2 tanks, but both have rock solid 100% attendance and we have Guru in backup to cover the very rare absence of Hal or Whytee.  RGW have 2 tanks, who look like they are moving towards 100% attendance (Odd had a hiccup), so this needs checking.  If Odd is not going be be a reliable 100% then you need 3 tanks, if Odd is 100% then Sharp becomes a dps and is only needed as a tank backup.

There are 15 in the list above.  That breaks down into the Tier Token Groups thus:
4 - Priest/Pala/Warlock
6 going to 5 - DK/Rogue/Druid/Mage (Garyuu will ultimately lose her spot but given her illness now is not the time)
5 going to 4 - Hunter/Shaman/Warrior/Monk (Sith will ultimately be performance-managed out imo)

So your core raid is 4,5,4 in token terms whereas this needs to be at least 4,5,5 (and probably at least 1 more that this) to ensure full attendance and queues over time.

In a 4,5,4 group, to retain balance in the tokens and gearing then ideally you'd fill the spot from the hunter, shaman, warrior, monk group to make the group 4,5,5 again.   Hunters & warriors you already have and you only have one shaman and no monk.    


So, if Odd is not 100% then Sharp is a de facto tank and one-third of your tanks miss half your raid time and the open spot is in melee:

Tanks: Mario, Odd@50%, Sharp@50% (total 2 as required)
Melee DPS: Sharp@50%, Grimnar@50% (total 1, 2 required)

Rather than a ret pala, it would seem to me that looking for a melee dps monk might be a smart move here and we have at least one of those within guild that you could talk to about raiding.

The other option is to fill lack of melee dps with an ele shaman, which bumps up ranged coverage in anticipation of Sith being managed out and does not over-cramp the melee camp.   Being short of ranged can cripple you on some content.

There are fights in current content where you need to go to 6 dps, so there is also an argument to carry more ranged than you can fit into the instance. Therefore adding both an ele shaman and a melee dps monk is also an option.

Running a 4-5-6 or 4-5-5 group should be fine for token balance as the 4-token always drops least due to fewer classes in the group, so adding to the Hunter/Shaman/Warrior/Monk is the least painful for loot.

As I said at the top, it's just my 2 cents and my way of thinking about the problem, so hopefully the alternative view helps you.

[Mariotet]

It should say paladin or a monk prio.
And yes we are 3 tanks. I will have a chat with odd and Sharp how they think ut works.
More will come when i come home from work