HEROIC Hagara the Stormbinder - DEFEATED 04/03/12

[hubbah]

I wanna thank the guys who helped out last night too, i think your help is more then apriciated

I also wanna apologize for my dumb mistakes, was kinda stressed out for this fight because like Switch said, move around, disspell and heal.. This is the hardest fight for me to ever heal

But I saw that we made some progress in frost phase, so to everyone GJ

Have a chat with Niel ( puja ) or slush, they healed that fight a million times and seem to finally do ok now

[Niel]

My role healing this fight is always as part of the anti-clockwise group......not so different than the CW group but the time avail is a little shorter as you are running against the flow of the walls.

Dispelling - Healers have to be really strict about this, especially while you are still learning it.......only ever dispell your own people, and only do it with a call from the person......if they don't call then they don't get dispelled and die.....simples.......that way you will never ever end up with frost patches on the outside.........frost patches on the outer ring means someone dispelled that should nto have or someone called when they shouldn't have....in both cases that needs to be dealt with and stopped. The strictness of dispelling tends to get eased once you have this kill and everyone is used to it.....but until you have it as a regular kill you have to stay strict ( i would say the rules only wander when you have it on farm as you actually find that you have spare time to throw heals/dispells on people that are not part of your group )....for my own group i keep an eye on them anyway and dispell as soon as i can see them safely inside the bubble so i don't necesarily need the call.

Big white circles - to be honest....learnt to live with them.....it does not matter how many of them there are you need to find a tactic that works for you to deal with them. For myself on a shammy i save spiritwalkers grace for the "oh $%&£" moments when there are debuffs to deal with, ice wall incoming and multiple big round circles where i am or need to get to.

Ice walls - i try to run a "J" track for ice walls......dance into the bubble and as i run back to the outer ring actually turn and almost chase the wall that just passed.......that means that as soon as i stop i have almost a whole quarter of the outer ring in which to cast heals...............if you don't do this and run in past the wall then back to outer without a turn you probably find you have only half the time to cast heals before the next wall.............this manouvering around ice walls is where you will find the most spare time that helps you get more heals/dispells out - always manouvere around the wall to leave yourself the most time for casting once stopped.

Above all as a healer.....don't panic......find a rhythmn that does the job and keep it rolling - if your people that you are healing do their thing right then you find that the healing on them becomes almost repetetive as they take a constant pattern of damage..........finding you can't get a rhythmn healing them because the damage is really spikey on one or more means you need to slap the offenders upside the head and get them to stop standing in £$%&. Again i can only speak for myself.....but i expect to get at least 2 x Riptide and 2 x GHW out between each ice wall ( i only ever use GHW on ice phase as i want the most bang per buck heal goign out...no point sending out little tiddly heals as that just wastes time that could have been used sendign out a bigger heal ) with Riptides being cast on CD also when moving around ice walls or other avoiding other crap.

Cheers

Niel

[Arcticfire]

So i dont apprieciate comments about my movement from people who just have 2 things to do. All i can say is try my job. Also its a learnig curve but we had dispells going early and to not peoples grps,which then ending up killing others. For example Odd dispelled grim outside,a slow patch went down then i got frostflake which slows me even more...I get hit by ice wall and die. Then moaned at for my movement.

Ha Ha, nothing changed huh Switch

[Switchback]

Thanks for the post neil it makes alot of sense. I was on the side with 2 healers so yeah dispells were going out early. Which lead to deaths and such as i mention in my post above.

Odd dont worry mate you have kinda been thrown in the deep end. Running hcs with a grp that has more experience than you. As i said im struggling with this fight but i frustrasted myself...Instead of keeping calm i got the hump. Which again affected my performance. As niel says....we just need to focus on our grps to avoid patches being dropped etc. I know its a pain and that was your 1st night on her but with some more practise it will come together. As said in my above post lightning phase the runners wouldnt survive normaly so the combination of you and TL we are headed in the right direction so dont beat yourself up :boxing:

@ Drea....yeas mate every1 knows my movement is shoite I am getting better but this is quite a handful to heal. Im actually really enjoying the difficulty of these even with a 30% nerf lol. Cant wait to get back in there on monday with a fresh head and get the bitch down

[Oddbal]

Thx for the post Niel really helpfull .. Will try to learn from your wisdom

[hermioneg]

BUT! OMG Hermi!!!! Tonight i heard you on ts more than ive heard you in the whole time ive raided with you.!...this is great! i know you may not chat but your calls were great....please keep it up. Would rather a yes/no /dispell, than nothing and thats what we will need for these last few HC modes. Your dps has improved,movement and now talking. Seriously you dont know how happy that makes me.

 Ty Switch  
 When I started playing WOW I was frost then I went arcane for long time.. now with the help of cynba and tons of training sessions with TL I begin to understand how to use fire specc..(and If I happen to get some loot) my dps can only increase...
You know that TS is my achilles heel..... but I'll always be a little more involved ... and who knows ... Maybe I could even chat  :ranting2: (I think you missed my "torgen next" in a mixed run some time ago .. :narnar:)

[Sithvid]

Rgw got the kill... Did I miss the post?

[Slush]

Rgw got the kill... Did I miss the post?

Nope, you just made it. Gz RGW. Good work!!

[Switchback]

So after a break from attempting Hagara due to holidays, illness and work. We went back in and spent two nights getting the soaking correct, managing movement and dispels. It paid off.

Grats RGW and thanks to the input from RGT, especially those who joined in our efforts.

[hubbah]

Gratz guys & gals i was lurking on TS while you got the kill and got a smile on my face when i heard the nerdscreams

Gz again!

[Cynba]

Yay gj all & gz us! Still kicking myself for frapsing all the wipes but not the actual kill lol :ranting2: Hopefully won't make that mistake for warmaster

[Nimsraedian]

Gratz guys! Hopefully this will the only first kill i miss