HEROIC Hagara the Stormbinder - DEFEATED 04/03/12

[Cynba]

lol finally got where TL's avatar is from :narnar:

And agree, don't think it matters that much where we pull the boss at the start..
Think the lightning phase went pretty good. It's pretty hard for the healers, I think everyone in the middle needs to get out that white circle thingy asap to avoid extra incoming damage.
Ice phase, think ppl we're running the good direction near the end but just need some more practice on movement etc. Remember surviving is pretty important


also:

keep in mind that the anticlockwise group should be made up of the lefthand soak pair and the healer from the mid soak pair

so me & yaril left of the boss near blue marker, moon with hermi in the middle & sithy/hendrik (or was it lynx?) on the right side near green.

[Jewelz^]

If the groups were sorted into two groups of 5 I could do more healing.

[hubbah]

what side would get 2 healers and what side would get 1?

[TeaLeaf]

If the groups were sorted into two groups of 5 I could do more healing.

Actually it's difficult to do that with the single dispells, so what you find is that you are limited as to the number of targets you can heal in most cases.  Plus as Hubbah said, it's difficult to divide 3 healers into 2!

[Mellisanda]

Would it be an idea to have Pals stay in the middle with the non-runners during the lightning phase to help out with the healing from there?

[Switchback]

Not really as pals is dps and a runner

[Mellisanda]

But she still has healing spells, right?  I think I remember hearing TL say on his video that people with healing spells would stay in the middle to help out, with runners being people without heals... Maybe I misheard though.. How do you find healing in the middle as it stands?

[Switchback]

Currently not to bad if people stick to their assigned targets.

We have to dps the lightning add down...so if we have pals in the range healer camp we have 1 less dps on the add...and then she will have to run out to then start the connections needed to overlaod the orbs.

Thats why melee (nims pals tank) and 1 ranged go pew pew.

I lookafter the aoe heals with help from sith with a tranq,lynxs has 2 peeps to heal and hend had 2 to heal but there were heals going all over the place.

*edit* tls comment i believe that if you are  in the ranged/heal camp if you can heal then heal...

[Switchback]

More than anything the problems we had with this fight was people actually knowing where to go....grps were called. u run here u run there,,.... We had about 5 people running in the places they were supposed to. aslo as they werent with "their" grp dispells were going all over the place and so alot of slowing debuffs.

Alot of work on this 1.

[TeaLeaf]

If there's a choice of runners, then leaving Pals in the middle to blow a tranquility is helpful during the lightning phase, particular at the end as the stacks get high.  It all depends if you have a choice of runners.   We use tank+warlock (soul link) on one side, then warrior/rogue/hunter on the other.   None of those have healing spells, so everyone else can twiddle their thumbs and do healing in the middle.

You mimimise damage at the start of the lightning phase by having any non-runner being well away from the add as it dies so they do not immediately get chained.   RGT's healers & non-runners all go to mid at the start of the lightning phase and any melee non-runners leave well before the add dies (ranged finish him off).

[pälsboll]

If there's a choice of runners, then leaving Pals in the middle to blow a tranquility is helpful during the lightning phase, particular at the end as the stacks get high.

the only healing spell I have that is good for anything is tranquility and its a long CD on it..
the other healing spells as cat is for no use at all

[Grimnar]

RGW had a nice few tries today on this boss, and i have to say to a nice job well done for the progress made.

Hardest part is still the frost phase, healers really don't have it easy on this one, healing, disspelling and moving all at the same time...
So big respect to you guys!!!

With that said: The movement during the frost phase is thing where i think we need to improve the most, and the healers keep to their group for disspelling
As we noticed that some times a few of us got disspelled to early without having called out for a disspell and that made the movement quite hard.

For the rest the lightning phase was awesome and well worked out, i have to say thumbs up to Cynba for a nice run, with us two doing most of the time 75% of the field :flirty:

If we can survive 2 frost phases the fight will then be ours so keep up the good work and next week a new hc boss down for RGW :devil:

[Switchback]

Have to agree with Grim on this...we had quite a few good tries at this.

When we were trying before we would get through the lightning phase with 4-5 dead...now that phase is no problem.

Frost phase. :ranting2: Im struggling with it as you could of guessed.
 3 grps and i had the biggest grp of 4,just that 1 extra is hard....My UI is crap as im waiting for a new lappy from sony. Still its bloody hard trying to move in and out dodge ice walls dispell and heal 4 people.
So i dont apprieciate comments about my movement from people who just have 2 things to do. All i can say is try my job. Also its a learnig curve but we had dispells going early and to not peoples grps,which then ending up killing others. For example Odd dispelled grim outside,a slow patch went down then i got frostflake which slows me even more...I get hit by ice wall and die. Then moaned at for my movement.

Many people made mistake tonight but i actually felt quite pointed out. Which then frustrated me imensely,and i have a short temper. I'm sorry for that.

BUT! OMG Hermi!!!! Tonight i heard you on ts more than ive heard you in the whole time ive raided with you.!...this is great! i know you may not chat but your calls were great....please keep it up. Would rather a yes/no /dispell, than nothing and thats what we will need for these last few HC modes. Your dps has improved,movement and now talking. Seriously you dont know how happy that makes me.

Overall really happy with tonight and once we just get used to it we will be fine.

Just want it to be a full RGW grp for the 1st kill. No offence to the chaps who keep helping us out and a big shout goes to you. Thanks TL,Jas,Whytee,Hal. Without you 4 alot of nights couldnt of happened and it was great to have you in tonight TL with your knowlegde and expertise and thx Jas for our repair fund (and your skills)

Looking forward to Monday.

[Cynba]

Nice progress idd, tnx again to TL & Jas for joining & pointing out some stuff/giving tips etc.. Lightning phase goes pretty decent, ice phase still needs some improvement but have to agree with Switch, would hate it to heal myself tbh
Looking forward to monday, am also wondering how warmaster will go now with another nerf. Though don't know what the plan will be

And yea, was nice to hear some more voices on ts! :yahoo:

[Oddbal]

I wanna thank the guys who helped out last night too, i think your help is more then apriciated

I also wanna apologize for my dumb mistakes, was kinda stressed out for this fight because like Switch said, move around, disspell and heal.. This is the hardest fight for me to ever heal

But I saw that we made some progress in frost phase, so to everyone GJ