Last Night

[BrotherTobious]

Well that was not what I called fun, no one is listening etc its the same old **** every week.

And what is worse is that some people that wernt a issue have become a issue.  And to be fair recently I know I have not been around but when I have been I have been dreading it as it is such a uphill struggle.  I cant imagine how you guys feel.

I am really grateful for all the times Sparko and OB have stepped up in my absence and I have no issues with you at all and with out you this would be impossible!

But I am not enjoying it especially with 10 plus on the server.

So I am open to ideas no matter how crazy or left or right wing.  And it was such as shame as we had a couple of nights were we really worked well.

/me takes off rant pants, puts on pants of chill the feck outness.

[OldBloke]

Was out last night so didn't get to experience this, Toby.

Can you give examples? Don't hesitate to name-and-shame so we know who we're keeping an eye on.

[smilodon]

Yep names would be good. I'm not adverse to posting a 'stern no name warning' that Arma is a unique game and needs to be played in a certain way. dMw won't allow a few to ruin the experience for everyone else.

This especially resonates now that I am map making. I'm trying to make my map a fun experience with some interesting set pieces. However it's very easy to break the whole thing if players go wandering of and don't follow the objectives and orders. For map makers and Squad Leaders it's especially galling.

[BrotherTobious]

It was just the usual and I am really surpirsed but Sneaky has been really pushing it.  Last night for example there was the Ifirit and the order was given to not kill as sulky asked to do it and he didnt then in the mid of giving direction sneaky let off a round and killed which then woke up everyone and then we got hit on open ground.

And the thing of oh look hes 2.5 km away and he looked in my direction I thought he was going to shoot me so I shot. I missed and wow look he is shooting at all of us now!!!

Sorry  it got to me last night.

[BrotherTobious]

Thinking about it the only way is to be really strict for a couple of weeks to get them in the mind set.  And if people dont like it and it comes back to any of you as no one really complains to me recently then I will have a word.

[Penfold]

I do agree and I didn't really enjoy it much either last night to be honest.

There were a few things that irked me in addition to Sneaky

Blob (?) or whoever it was was way off and away from the action.
Sulky told me not to get into the Panzer to then just get in himself which was weird
I'm still fed up with the lack of any sort of concern about reviving dead team mates and going for the kills. Maybe it's just me but I'm almost obsessive about trying to get people up - probably often too premature tbh. Sparko and TwoBad were great though and really on it.
I do find people ignoring orders really irritating. For example when you told Sulky not to shoot someone and he just whinged until you caved in and Sneaky and the Ifrit.
I do like Sulky but also find him the most selfish player by a country mile. He is a complete frag-hunter and will do exactly what he wants unless he's seriously jumped on.

Personally I've tried to stop being so sarky . It's always tongue-in-cheek but I am trying

I agree we need to jump on it or else we will lose players. I'm not here Wednesday but hopefully Sunday.

[Sparko]

Yeah wasn't good and wasnt enjoyable.  Some people not listening to simple instructions and some players just wondering off ahead.  We need to drill it in to some people that it's not Battlefield or Call of Duty it's not a run and gun it's a simulation and requires planning and a certain strategy.  The problem is if you we take it too seriously do we think we may lose some players? I know it makes it harder to l as with more people but we don't want to discourage people from playing.

I think if some of the culprits actually stood up and offered to lead they would soon be frustrated as we do when we lead.  Maybe picking a leader? Instead of asking for volunteers? Might be a bit harsh but we can't expect the same people to lead each week, this causes the most frustration

[Penfold]

I'm happy to have a go at leading now I feel more confident and back into it.

Picking the leader would be a good thing

[BrotherTobious]

We tried that before and it goes on deaf ears but willing to try again but I am thinking of being strict again.

Sent from my Nexus 5

[smilodon]

We could make a reference to the rules thread HERE

I think a comment would hit home with the right people, without having to name names. It's important that everyone understands game rules aren't optional and if players choose to persistently ignore them we aren't adverse to kicking them off the server for a time out. This is the sort of thing where a certain very few selfish players will push and push to see how far they can go. I think we need to deal with it now before it starts to become the norm.

[Penfold]

Ok confession time.

To put it bluntly unless there's one of you (those who have access here) lot on the server then I would be really reticent about joining. I know that's not right given my role in the Community but it's just too much like hard work to be enjoyable sometimes.

[Tutonic]

I haven't been on for a while, for precisely this reason. It's tedious having the same culprits, again and again, muck about and spoil the game for those of us who want to do things properly.

A 'reminder of the rules' post isn't a bad idea, but we've been here before. I think a couple of PMs need to be sent to repeat offenders - hopefully they will then realise that their behaviour is irritating the other players.

[smilodon]

Let's repost the rules, explain that standards are falling, let the guilty ponder their behaviour in private. If things don't change we PM people individually and then suspend them from the server for a week or two. I'm not inclined to tip toe about on this. I love the game too much to let a few people ruin it.

Also confession time, if that drives away a couple of persistent offenders then frankly I won't shed a tear. I'd prefer everyone to stay and enjoy Arma but if it's a choice between the game fading away or certain players doing so, I'll go with the latter.

[Penfold]

Ok, subject to Toby's approval of course.

can we please have a list of the worst offenders ... a top 5 or something

then we all know and are clear whom we're talking about and whom to watch.

[BrotherTobious]

I will get a post up of offenders and will do a repost of the rules. If you guys have anyone on your radar drop me a pm. Thanks for the support guys

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