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Started by TeaLeaf, January 02, 2005, 10:44:12 AM

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TeaLeaf

QuoteDead Men Walking

The 'Dead Men Walking' clan aims to provide a home, a community, for players who revel in Tactical Counter-Strike - TCS - and its team-based approach.  The Dead Men Walking clan offers a multi-tiered approach to membership to match the varying needs of the individual players that make up the Dead Men Walking community.

Dead Men Walking - Alpha Company

Anyone who has successfully applied for access to our forums and servers is automatically a member of the community's Alpha Company. Alpha Company membership gives you access to the Dead Men Walking TCS servers, the Dead Men Walking TCS area of the forums along with the opportunity to join us at our LAN parties. Alpha Company members may also apply for Bravo Company membership.

Dead Men Walking - Bravo Company

Alpha Company members who have demonstrated a mature and positive approach to the community (on both the game servers and in the forums) and have been trying to increase their involvement with both the community and TCS style of play can apply for Bravo Company membership. If accepted, Bravo Company membership entitles you to use the -=[dMw]=- tag in your player name, wherever you chose to play. This in turn helps us promote the TCS style of play and further our cause! Dead Men Walking accepts that Bravo Company members are allowed to be members of other clans as well, but we ask that in such cases you only wear your -=[dMw]=- tag when playing on a TCS server. Bravo Company members have access to the private Bravo Company Secure Channel area of the forums, advance booking notice for our LAN parties and can apply for Charlie Company membership if they meet the appropriate criteria.

Dead Men Walking - Charlie Company

Charlie Company members are committed to the continuing success of both the dMw community and its TCS style of play. Charlie Company members have demonstrated a mature and positive approach to the community and as such are valued by their quality as teamplayers and community members rather than by measuring their personal stats from the game servers. We expect a mature and exemplary standard of behaviour from Charlie Company members at all times and in all places. Members of Charlie Company are usually active contributors of quality content to the forums, regulars on our gaming servers and champions of the TCS style of play. Charlie Company members are also eligible to represent dMw in competitive matchplay, however the wish to compete in league, cup or other matches is not a requirement for Charlie Company membership. Charlie Company members have access to the Charlie Company Secure Channel area of the forums and the dMw private training, tactics and matchplay areas of the forums.

Dead Men Walking - Delta Company

Delta Company members are those who have demonstrated a level of skill or tactical awareness along with a commitment to the highest standards of team match-play. This earns them the right to compete for a place in advanced competition squads designed to be the best that dMw can field.


Membership Criteria:

Alpha Company
Anyone can apply for an account on the forum and by doing so have access to the server passwords. Registration in the forums automatically makes you a member of the community and the dMw Alpha Company.

Bravo Company
Membership cannot be applied for any earlier than 3 months after playing on the server for the first time. The player must have consistently demonstrated good teamwork, knowledge of the TCS rules and an active presence on the forums. Applications should be emailed to the dMw Admins and must be supported by a Proposer and two Seconders who are current members of dMw's Charlie Company.  Such applications are then considered by the Dead Men Walking Admins and decisions are usually given within 7 days. As successful applicants are entitled to wear the -=[dMw]=- tag on non-dMw servers then members are reminded that the Admins will consider all knowledge of the player including their attitude and conduct on non-dMw servers and forums.

Charlie Company
Membership can be applied for once Bravo Company membership has been held for at least 3 months.  Charlie Company members hold the success of the community in the highest regard and actively promote our style of play wherever and whenever possible. Charlie Company members are expected to make an ongoing and positive contribution to the community. Applications for Charlie Company membership should be emailed to the dMw Admins and must be supported by a Proposer and two Seconders who are current members of dMw's Charlie Company.  Such applications are then considered by the Dead Men Walking Admins and decisions are usually given within 7 days.

Delta Company
Membership at this level is by invitation only and requires a greater degree of commitment to matchplay excellence.
Here is the draft version of the revised community structure post.  The aim was to de-stress matchplay as the wording was clearly in conflict with our objectives.  The community aspect is stressed more.

The request for a Proposer and two Seconders (from within Charlie Company) for applications for Bravo & Charlie Companies will have the effect of letting Charlie Co members pre-vet new applicants - if you don't think they are worthy then you will not append your name to their application!  This will raise the bar somewhat for membership and hopefully address concerns that we are giving away wings to any old KFC.  If this system is agreeable then we would also post to the Charlie COmpany members explaining their responsibilities when it comes to them agreeing to support an application.

I know the email address stated in the post does not work, but this should only be a temporary problem.

Delta - I am reasonably content to leave the Delta wording intact as whilst it does not reflect the way we use Delta in practice, it is mroe trouble than it is worth to actually try to explain it within the post!

I am also happy to leave the references to TCS intact.  I knwo that there is a strong possibility (judging from the vote) that we will move to being a CZ based community, but it is more work thna necessary to change things to TCZ.  In any case, technically CZ is still CS:CZ (so the TCS still works) and CS:S will replace CZ in the future anyway!

Your comments please.  

This post along with any amendments agreed today will be submitted to the open forums tonight.

TL.
TL.
Wisdom doesn\'t necessarily come with age. Sometimes age just shows up all by itself.  (Tom Wilson)
Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships. (Michael Jordan)

Anonymous

Personally I would put:

QuoteCharlie Company members have demonstrated a mature and positive approach to the community and as such are valued by their quality as teamplayers and community members rather than by measuring their personal stats from the game servers. We expect a mature and exemplary standard of behaviour from Charlie Company members at all times and in all places.
in bold!

Small typo in bravo company ("botht he" should read "both the")

We might want to create some guidelines for Charlie company members to follow if they are approached by someone to act as a proposer/seconder or if they themselves feel that they should nominate some. Do you want me to draft something up for review?

Oops just noticed this bit:

QuoteIf this system is agreeable then we would also post to the Charlie COmpany members explaining their responsibilities when it comes to them agreeing to support an application
but offer still stands :)

Good job TL

TeaLeaf

QuoteOriginally posted by BlueBall+Jan 2 2005, 10:55 AM-->
QUOTE(BlueBall @ Jan 2 2005, 10:55 AM)
Personally I would put:

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I have no problems with that.  Done.
QuoteOriginally posted by BlueBall@Jan 2 2005, 10:55 AM
Small typo in bravo company ("botht he" should read "both the")
Corrected in original post.  Well spotted!
TL.
Wisdom doesn\'t necessarily come with age. Sometimes age just shows up all by itself.  (Tom Wilson)
Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships. (Michael Jordan)

Anonymous

QuoteOriginally posted by TeaLeaf@Jan 2 2005, 11:02 AM
Yes please BlueBall, that would be helpful.

TL.
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I'm on it. I'll try and get something posted here in draft format by tonight (going out this afternoon)

Dr Sadako

QuoteOriginally posted by BlueBall@Jan 2 2005, 12:55 PM
We might want to create some guidelines for Charlie company members to follow if they are approached by someone to act as a proposer/seconder or if they themselves feel that they should nominate some. Do you want me to draft something up for review?

I think that an explanation for Alpha and Bravo would be in place as well. What is the difference between a proposer and a seconder? If we wrote "support of three charlie members" would that be the same?
Just wondering because I didn't understand what was meant.
-=[dMw]=-Dr "Doc" Sadako

"Gravitation is not responsible for people falling in love." Albert Einstein

TeaLeaf

QuoteOriginally posted by Dr Sadako@Jan 2 2005, 11:25 AM
I think that an explanation for Alpha and Bravo would be in place as well. What is the difference between a proposer and a seconder? If we wrote "support of three charlie members" would that be the same?
Just wondering because I didn't understand what was meant.
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In essence they mean the same, yours is as appropriate.  My vernacular tends to the more formal ;)  But I would have no problem changing it to your version if preferred.

TL.
TL.
Wisdom doesn\'t necessarily come with age. Sometimes age just shows up all by itself.  (Tom Wilson)
Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships. (Michael Jordan)

OldBloke

I'd like to see a change so that the application is made by the proposer on behalf of the applicant stating the two seconders. This should eliminate any erroneous applications as well as defining the roles of proposer and seconder.
"War without end. Well, what was history if not that? And how would having the stars change anything?" - James S. A. Corey

Anonymous

..and were we going to introduce a "three strikes and your out" rule?

TeaLeaf

I have comments to add to both the above posts.  However I am going out now and will be back late afternoon.  I will post my comments then.

TL.
TL.
Wisdom doesn\'t necessarily come with age. Sometimes age just shows up all by itself.  (Tom Wilson)
Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships. (Michael Jordan)

OldBloke

QuoteOriginally posted by TeaLeaf@Jan 2 2005, 12:04 PM
I have comments to add to both the above posts. However I am going out now and will be back late afternoon. I will post my comments then.

TL.
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Slacker  :P
"War without end. Well, what was history if not that? And how would having the stars change anything?" - James S. A. Corey

smilodon

Gets my vote.  :thumbsup:

Are there any thoughts about criteria for remaining a Charlie? It would be simple to let dormant members just sit on the Charlie list, but then it might be argued that this would undermine the 'commited to the dMw and TCS' ethos if we allow people who are no longer remotely involved in the community to remain Charlie Squad members?

Just a thought
smilodon
Whatever's gone wrong it's not my fault.

Anonymous

QuoteOriginally posted by smilodon@Jan 2 2005, 02:28 PM
Gets my vote. :thumbsup:

Are there any thoughts about criteria for remaining a Charlie? It would be simple to let dormant members just sit on the Charlie list, but then it might be argued that this would undermine the 'commited to the dMw and TCS' ethos if we allow people who are no longer remotely involved in the community to remain Charlie Squad members?

Just a thought
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Shadow Squad I guess

Anonymous

QuoteOriginally posted by BlueBall@Jan 2 2005, 11:21 AM
I'm on it. I'll try and get something posted here in draft format by tonight (going out this afternoon)
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I escaped from having to go see "An Unfortunate Series of Events" :)

First draft for comment:

Dr Sadako

QuoteOriginally posted by BlueBall@Jan 2 2005, 05:13 PM
I escaped from having to go see "An Unfortunate Series of Events" :)

First draft for comment:
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Good so far. I think we need to explain how a proposer should act towards seconders and admins. As I see it the proposer handles all contact with the applicant and the seconders and then sends an application to the admins explaining why we should accept him/her.
-=[dMw]=-Dr "Doc" Sadako

"Gravitation is not responsible for people falling in love." Albert Einstein

Anonymous

QuoteOriginally posted by Dr Sadako@Jan 2 2005, 03:33 PM
Good so far. I think we need to explain how a proposer should act towards seconders and admins. As I see it the proposer handles all contact with the applicant and the seconders and then sends an application to the admins explaining why we should accept him/her.
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Good point

I would prefer to see the person applying to send the email rather than the person proposing. My reason is that it avoids any possibility of someone changing their mind and saying that they hadn't wanted to be put forward (to be honest this is a remote possibility but you could see the fdifficulty if it was someone from another clan applying for Charlie membership who then changed their mind and tells their clan leader that someone at dMw had tried to poach him)  I think it best if proposer give admins a "heads up" that someone will appy and gives the name of the two seconders and the person seeking membership does the actual application.

We also need to decide how the seconders/proposers get together to decide that someone is ready. Should the person seeking membership ask someone to propose and second them or should the proposer seek people to second the person because he has noticed them as having "the right stuff"?