Win7 Pre-order from Ã‚Â£49.99

Lameduck · August 04, 2009, 07:16:45 AM

Have I ordered something that I didnt need to order? Oh Dear:taz:

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/264715/windows-7-preorders-thrown-into-doubt-as-microsoft-scraps-e-editions.html

Toxteth · August 04, 2009, 02:42:46 PM

So the original deal was that the Premium would be Ã,Â£49.99 until the 14th of August, but now the cheapest is Ã,Â£69.93 from PC world?

Tutonic · August 04, 2009, 03:02:15 PM

How come Microsoft are forced to supply an OS without IE, yet Apple are perfectly ok to bundle Safari into their systems?

I'm guessing that if you've already ordered the 'E' edition (like I have), the you'll get whatever they've now decided to supply instead. I doubt we'll have to place our pre-orders again...

Liberator · August 04, 2009, 05:33:06 PM

Quote from: Lameduck;285049Have I ordered something that I didnt need to order? Oh Dear:taz:

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/264715/windows-7-preorders-thrown-into-doubt-as-microsoft-scraps-e-editions.html

Well, the fact that it allows you to choose to install Explorer or not means that it will still have to be the full install.

So the removal of the 'E' doesn't mean we'll get upgrade editions, it just means we should get the same "Full" version as the rest of the world and that it's now an option for everyone to opt out of IE.

Liberator · August 04, 2009, 05:44:02 PM

Quote from: Toxteth;285120So the original deal was that the Premium would be Ã,Â£49.99 until the 14th of August, but now the cheapest is Ã,Â£69.93 from PC world?

Until the 14th August and while stocks last.

smilodon · August 04, 2009, 06:19:18 PM

Quote from: Tutonic;285124How come Microsoft are forced to supply an OS without IE, yet Apple are perfectly ok to bundle Safari into their systems?

I'm guessing that if you've already ordered the 'E' edition (like I have), the you'll get whatever they've now decided to supply instead. I doubt we'll have to place our pre-orders again...

Because Microsoft have near monopoly on the desktop which they horribly abused to the detriment of their competition and their customers. Apple have a tiny share and can therefore do what they like.

Microsoft were never required to remove IE from Windows 7, they were asked to clearly offer the customer a selection of alternatives. Microsoft decided all on their own to pull IE completely and to not release EU versions of Windows 7 upgrade.

As to why? - we can only speculate. But I speculate that they are a bunch of arse who are trying to make it look like the EU are to blame for the consequences of their own criminal activity. But that's just my opinion

OldBloke · August 04, 2009, 07:49:35 PM

Quote from: smilodon;285151... But I speculate that they are a bunch of arse who are trying to make it look like the EU are to blame for the consequences of their own criminal activity. But that's just my opinion

Doggers? Is that you? :flirty:

Toxteth · August 04, 2009, 07:54:29 PM

Quote from: Liberator;285145Until the 14th August and while stocks last.

Hmm it's just weird as the link for Ã,Â£49.99 appears that they are still in stock, they just hoofed up the price earlier. Or was it more of a 'designated pre-sale price batch'?

albert · August 07, 2009, 10:29:39 AM

I just scanned through all 6 pages of this interesting discussion and I am bamboozled!!

All this chat abuot upgrades, Ã,Â£49.99 pre-order, or is it Ã,Â£64.99 or is it E, do you need pro, is Ultimate worth it.... yadda yadda yadda

M$ must be loving the confusion....

Can someone do a summary please? Opinions, maybe it's worth just buying a lowest end Dell and getting the free W7 disk with it when it comes out.

http://www1.ca.dell.com/content/topics/topic.aspx/global/products/landing/en/ca/windows-7-consumer?c=ca&l=en&cs=cadhs1

Probably a catch. Like you end up with a rubbish computer LOL :winkiss:

T-Bag · August 07, 2009, 10:44:34 AM

Basically if you caught the pre-order the upgrade and you'd get the full version of Win 7 for Ã,Â£50 (the upgrade price) because there was not European upgrade version around due to competition concerns but they still wanted market share.

Now the price has gone up because the pre-order stocks sold out. To complicate things further now Microsoft are no longer giving the full version instead of the upgrade, so buying the pre-order now you might be delivered the genuine upgrade (still a reasonable deal, but not as great as saving Ã,Â£150 for the full version).

Usually a Dell comes with an OEM version of Windows which you're not allowed to transfer. When activating it they'll ask if it's still on the same system, and if you say no then it can't be activated. If you've upgraded it it should be allowed, even if there is almost nothing shared between the old and new system.

albert · August 07, 2009, 10:47:12 AM

Very cunning, so worst case sceario is pay higher price and have to upgrade XP or Vista to W7 which is a lot different in terms of it's design.

T-Bag · August 07, 2009, 01:11:34 PM

Quote from: albert;285475Very cunning, so worst case sceario is pay higher price and have to upgrade XP or Vista to W7 which is a lot different in terms of it's design.

Yeah, if you buy now that's the worst case. If you don't I suppose the worst case is the deals all do and you have to buy a full price version.

As for XP and Vista being different to Win 7, yup. It is similar to vista at it's heart but they've done their best to make it like XP in terms of ease of use. It's quick performs well (like XP) but supports modern computers much better, and has an improved UI. (After using the search bar in Vista's start menu I wouldn't go back - that's in Win 7)

ChimpBoy · August 16, 2009, 03:34:47 PM

I know this may be a pretty dumb question but I've never actually "upgraded" an OS on my PC, I've just replaced my pc boxes over time and it's come with the newer OS (95 > 98 > XP).

I'm using XP 32 bit now, and if I buy W7 am I going to have to do a full hard disk wipe and then install W7? Or is there an upgrade path using the W7 CD that I can use without having to wipe my HDD?

I just don't think I can be assed to reinstall everything on this pc and any extra hassle kills my motivation for upgrading to a new OS that really doesn't seem to give me much that XP doesn't...

OldBloke · August 16, 2009, 03:54:28 PM

Quote from: ChimpBoy;286379I know this may be a pretty dumb question but I've never actually "upgraded" an OS on my PC, I've just replaced my pc boxes over time and it's come with the newer OS (95 > 98 > XP).

I'm using XP 32 bit now, and if I buy W7 am I going to have to do a full hard disk wipe and then install W7? Or is there an upgrade path using the W7 CD that I can use without having to wipe my HDD?

I just don't think I can be assed to reinstall everything on this pc and any extra hassle kills my motivation for upgrading to a new OS that really doesn't seem to give me much that XP doesn't...

There's no direct upgrade to Win7 from XP. Checkout the (simplified) 2nd graph on this page.

GhostMjr · August 16, 2009, 04:22:10 PM

I can see your point Chimp.

With the various beta and release candidate stages people have had to do a full wipe to move to the newer version. Next summer if and when this is the case for my windows 7 install i think i'll have to move it over as it will reboot ever 2 hours from what i've heard.

I have a preordered windows 7 pro for Ã,Â£99 from pcworld but i have no idea whether i can or cannot do an inplace install to upgrade my rc1 to the full copy. Hopefully i can!